So you took those on the PPMC and put them on the PMC, and those who were committers remain committers. The other option many podlings take is to put everyone who’s part of the podling onto the PMC. Either is fine, but the podling should discuss it and agree. I haven’t seen any discussion so far beyond this thread, but perhaps I’ve missed it.
Also, did you have any feedback on the recommendation that you keep at least one of the mentors on the PMC? Again, I think this should be discussed in the podling. Alan. > On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:49, Ramesh Mani <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this > is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which > is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list > http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the > number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook? > > Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project > summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need > input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done. > > Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a > separate email and address this. > > Thanks for your detailed input. > > Ramesh > > > > On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 for getting this process started. >> >> Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at. >> >> I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve >> made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable >> diversity in the committers. >> >> One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the >> Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18 >> members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was >> that decided? In a related question there appear to be community >> members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that >> distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from >> Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below? >> >> Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the >> mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give >> guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a >> deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying >> you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see >> which of them would be willing to stay on. >> >> As to the process of graduation, see >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html >> >> Next steps: >> 1) Propose a chair for the PMC. >> 2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions >> 3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list >> 4) Propose graduation in the IPMC >> 5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC >> 6) Do all the work of actually graduating >> >> Alan. >> >>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction >>> in my earlier email. >>> >>> >>> Hello Mentors, >>> >>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the >>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html. >>> >>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. >>> One >>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger". >>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ramesh >>> >>> >>> Project Graduation email content: >>> >>> >>> Project Status: >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html >>> >>> Project website: >>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/> >>> >>> Project Documentation: >>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html >>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders >>> >>> Project maturity Assessment: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+ >>> Ma >>> turity+Model >>> >>> >>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email >>> Proposed PMC size: 15 >>> >>> Total number of committers : 14 members >>> Total number of contributors : 22 members >>> >>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair) >>> >>> * Hortonworks (7) >>> Privacera (2) >>> BlueTalon (1) >>> >>> 1802 commits on develop >>> 8 PR’s on GitHub >>> 22 contributors across all branches >>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016 >>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016 >>> 1208 issues created >>> 997 issues resolved >>> >>> Committer’s affiliation: >>> Active: >>> Hortonworks >>> Talend >>> Freestone infotech >>> BlueTalon >>> eBay >>> other >>> >>> Resolution: >>> >>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to >>> establish a >>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >>> of >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >>> related >>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access >>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud >>> architectures. >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is >>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for >>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management >>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive >>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and >>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger >>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the >>> projects >>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be >>> it >>> further >>> >>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project: >>> >>> Balaji Ganesan [email protected] >>> Don Bosco Durai [email protected] >>> Dilli Arumugam [email protected] >>> Kevin Minder [email protected] >>> Larry Mccay [email protected] >>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj [email protected] >>> Ramesh Mani [email protected] >>> Sanjay Radia [email protected] >>> Selvamohan Neethiraj [email protected] >>> Velmurugan Periasamy [email protected] >>> >>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the >>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and >>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the >>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked >>> with >>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development >>> and >>> increased participation in the >>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with >>> the >>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are >>> hereafter >>> discharged. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Mentors - >>>> >>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for >>>> Apache >>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready >>>> for >>>> this discussion to begin. >>>> >>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and >>>> how >>>> to >>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board? >>>> >>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to >>>> go >>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that >>>> can >>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> --larry >>> >> >> >
