I sent Greg Trasuk a private note asking him to cease and desist on public 
badgering and instead to just step back and let the community vote on what 
happens with River, as that is the process that is supposed to work.  I 
suggested that if he had a plan and members to vote that plan through, that he 
could have things however he wanted.  I really do not appreciate his attitude 
and lack of appreciation for the experience and expertise that others have 
which is different from his own.  I don’t want to badger or belittle him in any 
way.  But, we need to use this process and work through issues by using our 
brains and our experiences both.  The “web” as we know it, is “mobile code” 
just like Jini uses.  Javascript won, because it was controlled by the browser 
camp, not by Sun.  Applets were in the browser first, but the size of PCs 
memory and computational resources were no where near mature enough for Java to 
have won.  I know, I tried to deploy lots of Java in Applets and applications 
in that time, to the desktop, but there was just not enough money spent on 
desktop machines in the enterprises where my customers were.  I am, hopefully 
going to get back out of the .Net world and back into Java and Jini again, this 
coming year.  I am looking forward to that!

Gregg

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Peter Firmstone <peter.firmst...@zeus.net.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> The Apache River 3.0.0 Release candidate is available here:
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~peter_firmstone/
> 
> Voting on this release will commence in 4 weeks, to allow time for people to 
> check they can reproduce these artifacts and test their code and report back 
> with any issues.
> 
> The code is currently in trunk, this will be branched after the 4 week review 
> period and Voting passes.
> 
> See also http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter.

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