Rename mail name, adding some context we have discussed before.
Hi, As topic description, I would like to put forward this issue despite we are apache tlp project. Firstly. we must arrange the total projects outside of Apache Repository[3]. According to my work on Apache RocketMQ Externals, CPP client[1] is a contribution from Alibaba, which is outside of Apache Repository. Anyone could add else ? If no, I suggest we re-check what we have done about all external projects [2]. [1] https://github.com/apache/rocketmq-externals/tree/master/rocketmq-cpp [2] https://github.com/apache/rocketmq-externals [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ Best Regards, Von Gosling > 在 2017年3月20日，17:04，Von Gosling <vongosl...@apache.org> 写道： > > Hi, > >> Perhaps like Justin >> said above, getting ICLAs from the contributors and having the potential >> committer discussion about each of them right away. > > > > Actually, i was also puzzled about this contribution behavior coming from > some Apache Project Community. I have been investing other Apache TLP works > about here. They get them involved in through the same git repository, or > leave them alone, just through one formal link to touch these community > projects. But as for us, we hope to merge the mature project to our > repository, let it under Apache RocketMQ’s umbrella. So, that’s why we > provided the Github group RocketMQ firstly, hoping to gathering them > together. We define the mature project as those were used in product > environment massively, like the RocketMQ-JMS and RocketMQ-Console projects > from the RocketMQ’s first marathon campaign :-) > > >> 在 2017年3月19日，01:26，Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> 写道： >> >> Thanks for raising this question, Justin, as there is an important >> distinction here. >> >> Since the code that was not part of the core RocketMQ and was recently >> moved to the externals project was not migrated as part of the original >> move from Github to the ASF, it must be treated a bit differently. This is >> especially true if folks who are not currently committers to the ASF >> RocketMQ project contributed to that code. We should have taken a more >> formal approach to moving over this code (my mistake for not recognizing >> this sooner). In terms of voting in the folks who contributed to this code >> when it resided at Github vs. now that it resides at the ASF, there must be >> a formal discussion of this amongst the PPMC about these potential >> committers in order to make this decision just like any other potential >> committers. >> >> It's also important to recognize that the ASF cannot provide the same legal >> guarantees for code that was not officially contributed to the ASF vs. code >> that goes through the proper legal process that has been established over >> the years at the ASF (like the original core RocketMQ code went through). >> This what code grants are all about and an important tenant of why the ASF >> exists. I'm honestly not quite sure what to do here. Perhaps like Justin >> said above, getting ICLAs from the contributors and having the potential >> committer discussion about each of them right away. >> >> Justin, what are your further thoughts on this second topic? >> >> Bruce >> >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> And we want to adopt the same way in the second code marathon: >>>> 1. Launch and develop the sub project in [1] at the initial stage. >>>> 2. Migrate the stable and fully functional sub projects to >>>> rocketmq-externals, meanwhile vote the top contributors as a committer. >>>> >>>> Does it ok ? >>> >>> I think I have a couple of issues with this: >>> 1. Code that hasn’t been reviewed for possible IP or legal issues is >>> copied into the Apache repo. >>> 2. We may not have ICLAs for the contributors. >>> 3. You are voting on committer based on their contribution to an external >>> project not this Apache project. >>> >>> What do the other mentors think? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Justin >> >> >> >> >> -- >> perl -e 'print >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' >> >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >
