We could appeal to have royalesdk.org allowed as our user-facing site. IMO, VP Branding never gave us a really good reason why it would be bad for Apache to allow it. Every Apache project site I looked at is geared towards committers as well as users. I don't think we can avoid appealing to committers on royale.a.o.
My 2 cents, -Alex On 1/30/18, 8:40 AM, "[email protected] on behalf of Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >Hi Alex, > >We are providing all of this. We can discuss the best organization, I >think >is right to add a links in the Downloads page to Source Code and Github so >people interested could go directly to that point. I think that while we >are providing all what Apache require from us we as well are organizing >and >presenting in a more modern way and more near to what people expect and >what others are doing. > >For two sites, I think we already have it and are ok with apache rules. >Remember that royalesdk.org was not allowed by apache brand and legal. So >for me royale.a.o is the marketing site and Github (where code resides) >is >the "code" site and something directly prepared for people that wants the >code. > >Just my 2 ctnms > >2018-01-30 17:16 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Carlos, >> >> It may not be required by policy, but the first 5 Apache project >>websites >> I went to all had download links for the source package on their >>download >> page, and any "Source" page pointed to the project's repos. >> >> Apache's only official products are source code releases, not binary >> artifacts. I think we have to list the source package on the downloads >> page. I did see that one project listed the binaries before the source >>so >> maybe we can do that. We want to direct people to our repos as well, >>but >> they are not releases. >> >> I think we have the option of having our download link redirect to the >> GitHub releases page if that makes sense. >> >> And as Piotr pointed out, there are 3 repos bundled into each release >> artifact so the "Source" page should reference all 3 repos and the >> "Downloads" reference the package that contains all 3 repos. >> >> Again, this is why I keep thinking we need a separate >> user-facing/marketing site and domain that is distinct from royale.a.o >> which is more tuned to attracting new committers. >> >> My 2 cents, >> -Alex >> >> >> On 1/30/18, 2:49 AM, "[email protected] on behalf of Carlos >>Rovira" >> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >No, I'm talking about this page: >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Froyale.apa >> >che.org%2Fsource-code%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com >> %7Cafe5673656ea4 >> >92d967c08d567d00eff%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636529065 >> >657298785&sdata=v3PxmC3CwRXMLbJgHZVj8HjpqyG% >> 2BX%2Bno%2B7OrTixvYLs%3D&reser >> >ved=0 >> >(link is the footer since its priority is low) >> > >> >For all: I updated as well the Home in the pre-production with the NPM >> >info >> >so you can check. I added the "NPM" link to footer menu as well, as it >>was >> >some time ago before first website release. >> > >> >2018-01-30 11:34 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]>: >> > >> >> Carlos, >> >> >> >> Are you refering by source code - specific TAG in the repository ? If >> >>you >> >> wanted to point to the sources you need to point sources for the all >> >>three >> >> repository. Point to the 0.9.0 released tag. >> >> >> >> But what is for on the Download page link to the sources ? Just to >> >>address >> >> other type of users ? If they want to come and help us we have GitHub >> >>link >> >> on our page. >> >> >> >> Thanks, Piotr >> >> >> >> 2018-01-30 11:20 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>: >> >> >> >> > Hi Alex, >> >> > >> >> > Thinking about this and I think is not right. We define Downloads >>page >> >> with >> >> > the following phrase: >> >> > >> >> > "Here you can find the binary distributions of Apache Royale SDK >>for >> >>you >> >> to >> >> > download." >> >> > >> >> > the source is in the "source code" page and in the Github link. >> >> > >> >> > I think that's the right way, since we provide the separated spaces >> >>to do >> >> > that, and make it more clear for users coming >> >> > (as I mentioned before, we should have two basic types of users, >> >>people >> >> > wanting to get the binaries to go fast without worry about more, >>and >> >> > people more advanced, first will go to downloads, and second will >>go >> >>to >> >> > source code page or directly to gihub link. >> >> > >> >> > But, We should change the source code page with the links to the >> >>source >> >> > code bundles. >> >> > @Andrew can you provide a text and right links to source code so I >>can >> >> make >> >> > the same and put in Source code page? >> >> > >> >> > thanks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2018-01-30 7:23 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <[email protected]>: >> >> > >> >> > > IMO, we need to list the source package first. Apache is about >> >>source. >> >> > > >> >> > > This is why I still think about a marketing site and domain that >>is >> >> more >> >> > > like the other JS frameworks out there. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Carlos Rovira >> >> > >> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% >> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% >> 7Cafe5673656ea492d967c08 >> >>d567d00eff%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C63652906565729878 >> >>5&sdata=GQobmSWy%2BnwN9rCu0Bu%2BGi77vSqDAikjTOkF11%2Byc%2FA% >> 3D&reserved=0 >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Piotr Zarzycki >> >> >> >> Patreon: >> >>*https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com >> %7Cafe5673656ea >> >>492d967c08d567d00eff%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365290 >> >>65657298785&sdata=hGxX4SM9Ob4E5FSSOWnKuR50L3aBmH >> w7u76s4tl9GxQ%3D&reserved >> >>=0 >> >> >> >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat >> >>reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com >> %7Cafe5673656ea >> >>492d967c08d567d00eff%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365290 >> >>65657298785&sdata=hGxX4SM9Ob4E5FSSOWnKuR50L3aBmH >> w7u76s4tl9GxQ%3D&reserved >> >>=0>* >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Carlos Rovira >> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2 >> >Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% >> 7Cafe5673656ea492d967c08d5 >> >67d00eff%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636529065657298785&s >> >data=GQobmSWy%2BnwN9rCu0Bu%2BGi77vSqDAikjTOkF11%2Byc%2FA%3D&reserved=0 >> >> > > >-- >Carlos Rovira >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2 >Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7806908e47a44d95088408d5 >680037e6%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636529272504602759&s >data=eaJ2e0K97gkmn0txGt2wrCsuEd6y%2FgzzmcdBWKb3a8g%3D&reserved=0
