Ok seems reasonable.
Thanks Alex

El jue., 15 nov. 2018 a las 18:50, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
escribió:

> If we don't need another RC, then I hope someone volunteers to be the RM
> for 0.9.5 in December, before so many changes go in that the scripts may
> need fixing.
>
> On 11/15/18, 2:20 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>     Ok Alex,
>
>     so if Piotr, Om, or Yashay could try next RC maybe we could check it
> works
>     for all. As soon as we have 2 different persons running successfully
> in two
>     different machines I think will got it. Although maybe we don't need
> other
>     RC... maybe could be good to try a new RC just for the purpose of
> check
>     all the process, always taking into account that someone of the latest
> RMs
>     have the time? I think getting success on this will make all of us more
>     confident that we get finally a release process 1.0
>
>     thanks!
>
>     Carlos
>
>
>
>     El jue., 15 nov. 2018 a las 11:02, Alex Harui
> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     escribió:
>
>     > To be clear:  the process DOES NOT upload artifacts to Maven
> Central.  It
>     > uploads to the ASF staging repo.  Only after we approve the release
> do the
>     > artifacts get pushed to Maven Central.  One of the RMs got an error
>     > DOWNLOADING a Maven plugin from Maven Central.  There is nothing
> wrong with
>     > doing that.
>     >
>     > Any volunteer is welcome to re-do the release scripts.  What we have
> now
>     > is what I think was the simplest sequence for creating both Maven and
>     > non-Maven artifacts.  Maven was the number 1 asked for feature in
> Adobe
>     > Flex.  IIRC, it had 100 votes and 2nd place was 12 votes.  So we
> support
>     > Maven in hopes that the customers we want to attract are using
> Maven, plus
>     > at least Carlos prefers to use Maven.
>     >
>     > Just like any other code or script in Royale, there can be bugs and
> room
>     > for improvement in the release process.  I found and fixed some
> issues, and
>     > hopefully the next RM will try the scripts after a month or so
> instead of 6
>     > months so fewer things will have become stale and broken.  In fact,
> I
>     > think I will say that RC2 is my last RC for a while.  If we need an
> RC3,
>     > someone else should create it since the know the scripts recently
> worked
>     > for me.  And since it is fresh in my mind, I might be able to help
> the next
>     > RM better.  I think the problems Piotr and Yishay hit have been
> addressed.
>     > The only remaining issue is upload/download issues.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 11/14/18, 10:36 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     Personally, I am not sure why we are uploading stuff to maven
> central
>     > as
>     >     part of the RC process.  Can we simply bundle the source files
> and
>     > create a
>     >     release candidate?  Folks who want to test maven can run the
> maven
>     > scripts
>     >     locally which would copy stuff to the local .m2 repo instead.
>     >     That way we dont force maven on folks who dont need it.
>     >
>     >     Thoughts?
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Om
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:54 PM Carlos Rovira <
>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     wrote:
>     >
>     >     > Hi Alex,
>     >     >
>     >     > first congrats to reach to this point. After many months is
> great to
>     >     > finally can release :)
>     >     >
>     >     > I forked the thread to avoid mixing topics and let the discuss
>     > thread to
>     >     > just discuss the RC2
>     >     >
>     >     > I'll try RC2 soon, but first I want to talk about the inherent
>     > problem. I
>     >     > know we are all here making a huge effort to make Royale work
> and
>     > shine,
>     >     > and be release manager is to spend many hours working in that
> task,
>     > so
>     >     > first I want to express as well a huge recognition to all RMs
> that
>     > tried to
>     >     > make this happen before you. I still didn't try to make myself
> a
>     > release,
>     >     > so I'm talking without the knowledge you all guys have, so
> sorry if
>     > I say
>     >     > something inconvenient now, but just want to talk about the
> elephant
>     > in the
>     >     > room, so we can improve the process from now own.
>     >     >
>     >     > My perception, from a person that is still outside the release
>     > process,
>     >     > still does not have all the knowledge and never was a RM is
> that the
>     >     > process is not reliable. Again hope nobody feels that talk
> about
>     > this is
>     >     > any kind of attack, just that if we agree on that, we could
> try to
>     > improve
>     >     > for the better. Right now seems that only Alex can make a
> release
>     > happen
>     >     > due to his machine configuration. I assume all RMs execute the
> RM
>     >     > instructions, so the problem is not related to the
> instructions, but
>     > seems
>     >     > more to the nature of how we build.
>     >     >
>     >     > So, my question is, what we could change to ensure scripts and
>     > process are
>     >     > reliable in all machines and doable by any of us?
>     >     > Is the process a mix of maven and ant what is making this so
> hard to
>     > do?
>     >     > Just a comment, could be the nature of ant (more single
> separated
>     > scripting
>     >     > based on computer environment config vs structured building
> based on
>     >     > building framework and servers) a problem?
>     >     >
>     >     > I want to be a RM soon (hope to be available for this task
> around
>     > Feb-Mar
>     >     > 2019), so its clear I still can say a word about the process
> just
>     > start
>     >     > this thread and hoping no one feels this as an attack (since I
>     > recognize
>     >     > the huge effort done to reach this point), but just a way to
> start
>     > trying
>     >     > to think with open mind and see that we have at least a thing
> to
>     > solve so
>     >     > any of us can make the same as Alex do
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks in advance for your thoughts :)
>     >     >
>     >     > Carlos
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > El mié., 14 nov. 2018 a las 19:46, Alex Harui (<
> aha...@earthlink.net
>     > >)
>     >     > escribió:
>     >     >
>     >     > > This is the discussion thread.   RC1 was never put up for
> vote
>     > because
>     >     > > there
>     >     > > were issues with the notice files and build scripts when
> running
>     > from the
>     >     > > packages and not the repo.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > Interestingly, the scripts ran just fine for me on my home
> Windows
>     >     > > computer.
>     >     > > I did not have the problems Om, Piotr, and Yishay had when
>     > uploading or
>     >     > > downloading Maven artifacts.  Except when I tried watching
> videos
>     > while
>     >     > > waiting for the scripts to run (the "maven" target takes 2
> hours in
>     >     > > Powershell, the "main" target took over an hour).   Then I
> would
>     > see
>     >     > > uploads
>     >     > > "hang".   So I would recommend to any future RMs to try to
> make
>     > sure the
>     >     > > network is not otherwise too busy when running these scripts.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > Changes in this RC include:
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > > Thanks,
>     >     > > Alex Harui
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     >
>     >     > --
>     >     > Carlos Rovira
>     >     >
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