Right Andrew,

Other sibling node can be MDL too. For what I understand MDL is like
Spectrum, both are js/css libraries that conform UI Sets in js. In Royale
we're wrapping it to make available in AS3 for Royale. And MDL was already
complete

just my 2


El lun., 13 ene. 2020 a las 20:33, Andrew Wetmore (<cottag...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> What if we added a page under "Frameworks and Libraries", sibling to
> "Crux", called "Spectrum Royale"? Plenty of room then to add pages about
> other flavors of using CSS and JS libraries with Royale.
>
> a
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:32 PM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew, Harbs,
> >
> > I think we need to reference Spectrum and as well MDL since both wraps
> > css/js library with Royale.
> > We need to start some docs sections with that since we have various
> options
> > (while others like createjs, or jquery, are just experiments that does
> not
> > try to go further but give some example about how to do something like
> > that.
> >
> > just my 2
> >
> > Carios
> >
> > El lun., 13 ene. 2020 a las 16:20, Andrew Wetmore (<cottag...@gmail.com
> >)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > @Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>  let us know when we should feature
> this
> > in
> > > the same way we do Tour de Jewel, and in the user docs.
> > >
> > > I am looking at Adobe's Spectrum pages and can easily write a couple of
> > > paragraphs about what Spectrum is. I will need some input from you and
> > what
> > > you have found in merging Royale and Spectrum.
> > >
> > > Really lovely stuff to see.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:03 AM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > FWIW here’s a comparison of the summaries of first page loads:
> > > >
> > > > Royale:
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI9q-KtmIU5Fz5O055Z6VSNW1dWEGERugUA <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI9q-KtmIU5Fz5O055Z6VSNW1dWEGERugUA>
> > > >
> > > > React:
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI9U13oQWlRAo7HzY4ZiTz5xuLU6MJbITpA <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI9U13oQWlRAo7HzY4ZiTz5xuLU6MJbITpA>
> > > >
> > > > Compare the Scripting and Rendering times of the two. The contrast is
> > > > stark.
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 13, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Adobe’s showcase of Spectrum is done using React:
> > > > > https://opensource.adobe.com/spectrum-css/components/accordion/ <
> > > > https://opensource.adobe.com/spectrum-css/components/accordion/>
> > > > >
> > > > > The original showcase was so slow that they had to break the demo
> > into
> > > > separate pages. (It could be that made sense anyway.)
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s not a complete one-to-one comparison, but I’m going to try and
> > > make
> > > > it as close as I can. Once I’m done, we can write about it more
> > > > intelligently. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Harbs
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Jan 13, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org
> > > > <mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Harbs,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Amazing! :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you share more about your comparison?
> > > > >> I think that could be something to share in our social media
> right?
> > > > people
> > > > >> should know about this progress, since performance is something
> that
> > > > users
> > > > >> pursue as one of the most wanted things to choose one tech over
> > > another.
> > > > >> But to make this valid, compared things should have a similar base
> > to
> > > be
> > > > >> comparable. I don't know too much about Spectrum components, but I
> > > > >> understand that you are working on a Royale implementation and
> > someone
> > > > did
> > > > >> a React implementation, and you're comparing a switch of screen
> or a
> > > > >> component for the same component/screen using both
> implementations.
> > > > Another
> > > > >> interesting thing would be to know about what component/screen
> we're
> > > > >> talking about.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks! :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Carlos
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> El lun., 13 ene. 2020 a las 15:23, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com
> > > > <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> FYI, I took the opportunity to compare a similar React
> > implementation
> > > > to
> > > > >>> the Royale one.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Switching component views in React took about 500 ms, while in
> > Royale
> > > > it
> > > > >>> took under 40 ms.
> > > > >>> Royale:
> > > > >>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AI_tvFQmLmxMIKoex5T3iLbCL5E7Y2XqGQc <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI_tvFQmLmxMIKoex5T3iLbCL5E7Y2XqGQc> <
> > > > >>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AI_tvFQmLmxMIKoex5T3iLbCL5E7Y2XqGQc <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI_tvFQmLmxMIKoex5T3iLbCL5E7Y2XqGQc>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> React:
> > > > >>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AI-kSFHyYHFCWou_2mp4I-jqIB1toKyMryU <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI-kSFHyYHFCWou_2mp4I-jqIB1toKyMryU> <
> > > > >>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AI-kSFHyYHFCWou_2mp4I-jqIB1toKyMryU <
> > > > https://www.evernote.com/l/AI-kSFHyYHFCWou_2mp4I-jqIB1toKyMryU>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This confirms my suspicion that we have a huge performance
> > advantage
> > > > with
> > > > >>> Royale…
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Harbs
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org
> > > > <mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi Harbs,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> cool to see that showcased!.
> > > > >>>> I think apps that demo code is very needed to make people
> > understand
> > > > >>>> quickly what a concrete code or library can do for them.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks :)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Carlos
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> El lun., 13 ene. 2020 a las 11:06, Harbs (<
> harbs.li...@gmail.com
> > > > <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>)
> > > > >>> escribió:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> That would be great. (fixed your suggestions)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> FYI, the code for the panes is here:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/unhurdle/spectrum-royale/tree/master/SpectrumBrowser/src/view/panes
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/unhurdle/spectrum-royale/tree/master/SpectrumBrowser/src/view/panes
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 1:43 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> This will be great! By the way, if you want any text review I
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > >>>>>> happy to help. For example, "Varients" should be "Variants"
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 7:30 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> FYI, I’ve been working on filling out a demo the Spectrum
> > Royale
> > > > >>>>>>> components:
> > > > >>>>>>> https://unhurdle.github.io/spectrum-royale/ <
> > > > >>>>>>> https://unhurdle.github.io/spectrum-royale/>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I’m going to be filling them out over the next week…
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Harbs
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira <http://about.me/carlosrovira>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>


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