On 3/20/20, 12:25 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with Carlos here,
When reading this thread, I read a lot of "must", but it's actually mostly
a "want".
Have been waiting for Royale releases for the past months and haven't seen
much progress on starting the 0.9.7 release.
As far as I understood things from the sidelines, the problem is that no
one wanted to become RM. I am guessing because
Others have been wasting far too much of their time and resources in not
frying their big fish, but being stuck in the 13 steps.
Which I can't see as an improvement.
No, the reason is that changes were made to the Maven process that broke the 13
steps that were working. And now it is the responsibility of those who broke
it to fix it.
Please stop with blame passing and misinformation.
So yes: I am investing time. Time I wouldn't be investing in anything else
for Royale however. So the only "net-loos" you folks are having is Carlos or
the time needed to write long emails, which could also be short.
If I succeed with my plans anyone can continue to do their 13 step release
as you like. However it would enable RMs to choose to do it on their machine.
As long as we have all bases covered in the process, I doubt there will be any
objection, right?
No objections from me, because that's what we had before it was broken by
recent Maven changes.
-Alex
Chris
Am 20.03.20, 00:59 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>:
Hi,
I don't think having a remote machine would be the problem. When we
finish
I expect people can use remote machine or local machine, as they
choose, so
all people should be happy. The objective is remove complexity and steps
down from 13 to maybe 2 steps, while Ant continues to work as expected.
So ok, I'll try to be the RM. I must check some urgent things in Jewel
before start, but I hope it will be hopefully soon...
Thanks
El jue., 19 mar. 2020 a las 23:32, Alex Harui
(<[email protected]>)
escribió:
> I agree with you 100% Piotr. My hope now is that in the fixing of
these
> steps, Chris and Carlos will realize that we really were using Maven
in a
> proper way, we are just splitting up the release steps into individual
> Jenkins jobs so that people don't have to figure out how to get things
> working locally.
>
> One can only hope sometimes.
> -Alex
>
> On 3/19/20, 3:23 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> I also doesn't understand that based on experience of one person
(me)
> you
> guys would reinvent the wheel. ;) It looks like you are going to
do
> that
> despite any argument provide it here.
>
> No matter what would be the outcome I will most likely stick with
> steps on
> remote machine, cause I don't want to do anything on my machine at
> all. -
> This was one the biggest advantage when everything started to
work for
> me.
>
> In case of bigger fish to fry - one those is current improvement
to
> Binding
> and some layout changes which causes me 5 days of headache in our
> application and at the end of my work day today app still doesn't
work
> as
> it was before. :)
>
> czw., 19 mar 2020 o 23:04 Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> napisał(a):
>
> > Carlos,
> >
> > Using the CI steps for a release will likely help you learn
about
> what is
> > really involved in the Royale release process. If Chris is
going to
> get
> > the steps to work, then your job should be as simple as making
sure
> each
> > step works for you, and actually doing the commits and signing
of
> artifacts.
> >
> > Once we get the steps working and a release out, you are
welcome to
> create
> > a branch and try other things since working in a branch will not
> affect
> > others who may want to make a release from develop. And then we
> will have
> > something to compare. I still want to discourage such an
effort, as
> I
> > think it will only result in repeating history where you and
Chris
> will get
> > something to work and then it won't work for others. That's
what
> happened
> > to me. Other PMC members who want to see you and Chris spend
time
> on this
> > should probably commit to spending time testing your work. This
> makes me
> > sad that we are going to spend so much time on this as I think
there
> are
> > much bigger fish to fry. But apparently this is what enough
folks
> want.
> >
> > Sadly,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 3/19/20, 2:48 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > I can accept to be the RM for this 0.9.7, but I have a
notion of
> how
> > hard
> > it could be (since I spend a considerable amount of time
trying
> to fix
> > what
> > Chris did in just 1 day). I think if we're going to do
this, I
> expect
> > we
> > can then continue improving the process, as we asked in
> yesterday's
> > thread.
> > I think we got most support for the rest of the team here,
and
> to got
> > yours
> > too, taking into account that if we don't reach anything
good
> we'll
> > stick
> > with what we already have.
> >
> > Let me know what you think
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > El jue., 19 mar. 2020 a las 19:01, Alex Harui
> > (<[email protected]>)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > IMO, Carlos, you will have to be the RM to help prove out
that
> the CI
> > > process is working again
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > On 3/19/20, 10:34 AM, "Carlos Rovira"
<[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > > thanks for the note
> > > :)
> > >
> > > El jue., 19 mar. 2020 a las 18:17, Christofer Dutz (<
> > > [email protected]>) escribió:
> > >
> > > > Ahem ...
> > > >
> > > > well ... I haven't tested my changes on the build
steps
> ... I
> > > adjusted
> > > > what I was told was broken.
> > > >
> > > > However if I was to test them I would sort of be
doing a
> > release and
> > > that
> > > > would feel really strange ;-)
> > > >
> > > > I am totally willing to be of assistance to help the
> next RM
> > do his
> > > job
> > > > however and I am sure I'll be able to get the steps
> technically
> > > working.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 19.03.20, 18:12 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <
> > [email protected]
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > now that Chris fixed CI Release Steps I think
we are
> ready
> > to do
> > > a new
> > > > release.
> > > > So I want to ask if someone can take the role of
> Release
> > Manager
> > > and
> > > > use
> > > > the current process to release 0.9.7
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > >
> > >
> >
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