Makes sense to me.  I will set parallel executors back to 1.

And start working on a new Jenkins instance.

Thanks,
Om


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 AM Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you saying that Java, Ant and Maven do not know how to distribute work
> to different cores?
>
> To repeat my main concern:  our Jenkins jobs often use shared resources.
> If you want to take the time to fix that, feel free, but I do not know how
> you are going to keep two jobs from both trying to launch Flash Player
> Debugger at the same time and open the same socket to communicate with it,
> or try to parse the flashlog.txt that they have both written to.
>
> The royale-asjs job will use the royale-compiler workspace to get the
> compiler.  If the compiler is building, the jars are not there and the
> royale-asjs build fails.
>
> There is also only so much memory and some of our jobs use all of it and
> I'm not sure if jobs slowed down due to paging memory and writing/reading
> from disk, even if it is an SSD.
>
> I'm done for tonight, but that's what I was seeing last time I tried to
> have both master and an agent running jobs in parallel.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 4/17/20, 11:52 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     A typical setup would be to have 0 executors on master and at least n
>     number of executors on each agent, where n = number of cpu cores.
>     I see that the current VM has 2 cores.  So, I started with setting the
> num
>     executors on the current agent to 2.
>
>     This should improve things quite a bit.  If this doesn't work, I will
>     create a new VM and make it the slave agent of the current Jenkins
> master.
>
>
>     Thanks,
>     Om
>
>     On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:31 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]>
>     wrote:
>
>     > On your VM or mine?  I don't think mine can handle it.  I used to
> run jobs
>     > of master and agent and we got lots of failures and jobs took
> forever.  If
>     > two jobs are trying to run tests with the shared Flash Player
> Debugger, for
>     > example, you won't get consistent results.
>     >
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 4/17/20, 11:23 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I just realized that we have only one Agent (node) listed under
>     > Jenkins.  I
>     >     am going to add at least one more node to start with.
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Om
>     >
>     >     On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:58 AM Alex Harui
> <[email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     > I think I followed the instructions and enabled SSH.
>     >     >
>     >     > On 4/16/20, 9:37 AM, "Yishay Weiss" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     I haven’t gotten it to work. Could be ssh needs to be
> enabled on
>     > the
>     >     > VM [1]. This is nice to have but not essential. So Alex, let
> me know
>     > if you
>     >     > want to try that, otherwise I’ll suspend my efforts on this.
>     >     >
>     >     >     [1]
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >     >
>     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:09 PM
>     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >
>     >     >     I’d like to try and install an ssh server. Can anyone
> think of a
>     >     > reason not to do that? I’m asking in terms of security, and if
> there
>     > might
>     >     > be a problem because it’s a VM.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Thanks.
>     >     >
>     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:02 AM
>     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >
>     >     >     Related, as most (all?) of the instructions don’t require
>     > anything but
>     >     > a shell wouldn’t it be easier and faster to access the machine
> with
>     > ssh
>     >     > [1], rather than using remote desktop?
>     >     >
>     >     >     [1]
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >     >
>     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:55 AM
>     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >
>     >     >     Can’t you do that with remote desktop?
>     >     >
>     >     >     ________________________________
>     >     >     From: OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]>
>     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:51:25 AM
>     >     >     To: Apache Royale Development <[email protected]>
>     >     >     Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >
>     >     >     Alex,
>     >     >
>     >     >     I believe this is your personal Azure subscription right?
> Any
>     > chance
>     >     > I can
>     >     >     get access to it so I can try to copy the image out the
> machine
>     > and
>     >     >     redeploy it somewhere else?
>     >     >
>     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     Om
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 6:18 PM OmPrakash Muppirala <
>     >     > [email protected]>
>     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     > I can help set this up on Azure.  Give me some time to
> work
>     > out the
>     >     >     > details?
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Thanks,
>     >     >     > Om
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:49 AM Harbs <
> [email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >> OK. Good to know.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Alex Harui
>     > <[email protected]
>     >     > >
>     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> > FWIW, I just looked and the longest job in the release
>     > steps so
>     >     > far is
>     >     >     >> 8 minutes.  Most are under 2 minutes.  There might be
> jobs
>     > later
>     >     > that take
>     >     >     >> longer that we haven't run yet.  IMO, the issue isn't
> speed
>     > of the
>     >     > machine,
>     >     >     >> it is just that we are sharing the machine with longer
> jobs
>     > (1 hour
>     >     > for
>     >     >     >> TourDeFlexMigration).  And again, the machine will be
> idle for
>     >     > stretches of
>     >     >     >> time while the RM verifies artifacts after each step.
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> > -Alex
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> > On 4/12/20, 11:32 AM, "Harbs" <[email protected]
>     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >> [email protected]>> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >    Fair enough.
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >    I expect builds to be somewhere between 10 and 20
> times
>     > faster
>     >     > on a
>     >     >     >> powerful machine.
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >    Yeah. It’s probably going to be a bit of work
> changing
>     > the
>     >     > server,
>     >     >     >> but probably worth it in the long run.
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >    I think I’ll try this when I do the next release
> unless
>     > Yishay
>     >     > wants
>     >     >     >> to work with me on this for this release — but I’m not
> going
>     > to be
>     >     > able to
>     >     >     >> help until after Passover (i.e. next week).
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >    Thanks,
>     >     >     >> >    Harbs
>     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >> >> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Alex Harui
>     > <[email protected]
>     >     > >
>     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >> The Azure portal says: Standard F2s_v2 (2 vcpus, 4
> GiB
>     > memory)
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >> I think I am reading changes to the build process in
> your
>     >     >     >> suggestions.  I do not really want to spend more of my
> time
>     > on this
>     >     >     >> process.  But if you want to do the work, that's fine
> with me.
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >> -Alex
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >> On 4/12/20, 10:57 AM, "Harbs" <[email protected]
>     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >> [email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:
>     >     >     >> [email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >>   What kind of horsepower is included in the free
> Azure
>     > account?
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >>   The server I mentioned builds (considerably)
> faster than
>     > my own
>     >     >     >> local machine. The ci server seems to build many times
> slower.
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >>   One thing we can do to minimize running server time
>     > would be to
>     >     >     >> transfer the artifacts to storage instead of keeping
> them on
>     > the
>     >     > server. On
>     >     >     >> AWS, I’d probably use S3. Not sure what the similar
> service on
>     >     > Azure is
>     >     >     >> called.
>     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >> >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     > <[email protected]
>     >     >     >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>> OK, that's pretty much how I understand Azure as
> well.
>     > The key
>     >     > thing
>     >     >     >> is that "running" includes time where the CI server is
> not
>     > running
>     >     > any
>     >     >     >> Jenkins jobs.  The CI Server steps might take only a few
>     > hours of
>     >     > actual
>     >     >     >> server time, but there is time where the RM is verifying
>     > artifacts
>     >     > locally
>     >     >     >> so you'd be paying for that or the RM would have to keep
>     > shutting
>     >     > down and
>     >     >     >> restarting.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>> Seems like it would be cheaper/simpler to get the
> free
>     > MSDN
>     >     > account
>     >     >     >> and leave it running.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>> -Alex
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>> On 4/12/20, 10:15 AM, "Harbs" <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >> [email protected]>> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  My experience is with AWS.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  I assume Microsoft has similar offerings, but I
> don’t
>     > have
>     >     >     >> experience with Azure.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  AWS has on-demand EC2 instances which you pay for
> only
>     > the
>     >     > actual
>     >     >     >> time that they are running.[1]
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  Instances can be started and stopped via command
> line
>     > (or via
>     >     > the
>     >     >     >> web interface) as long as you have valid credentials to
> do so.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  For example: an m5.4xlarge instance has 16 cores
> and
>     > costs
>     >     > about
>     >     >     >> $1.5 per hour. On a machine like that, a full build
> would
>     > probably
>     >     > take
>     >     >     >> less than 10 minutes. It’s probably possible to do a
> full
>     > release
>     >     > with only
>     >     >     >> a few hours of server time.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  Leaving a server like that running all the time
> would get
>     >     > expensive,
>     >     >     >> but if it’s just spun up for releases, you’d get very
> fast
>     > builds
>     >     > at a
>     >     >     >> reasonable price.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  I’d be happy to pay $10-$50 (and possibly more) per
>     > release to
>     >     > make
>     >     >     >> the release process painless for the RM.
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>  [1]
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> I'm not very experienced with spinning up
> servers.  The
>     > CI
>     >     > server we
>     >     >     >> are using is effectively free, based on a generous
> donation
>     > from
>     >     > Microsoft
>     >     >     >> of MSDN accounts to ASF committers.  So I leave it up
> 24/7,
>     > and
>     >     > share the
>     >     >     >> RDP access on private@.  I think any other ASF
> committer
>     > could do
>     >     > the
>     >     >     >> same.  IIRC, if that server actually is stopped, I have
> to
>     > use my
>     >     > personal
>     >     >     >> (unshared) MSDN credentials to start it again.   AIUI,
> if I
>     >     > actually paid
>     >     >     >> for the server, it would cost me to leave it running
> even if
>     > it
>     >     > didn't run
>     >     >     >> jobs between releases.
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> Is that what you are basically saying?  I think it
> might
>     > be
>     >     > best if
>     >     >     >> another committer got a CI server going via the MS
> donation
>     > and
>     >     > could leave
>     >     >     >> it up 24/7.
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> -Alex
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> On 4/12/20, 9:28 AM, "Harbs" <
> [email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> I’m willing to do this.
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> Considering that the release will be run
> infrequently, it
>     >     > should be
>     >     >     >> doable to have a relatively powerful server that could
> be
>     > spun up on
>     >     >     >> demand. This is something I have setup for my own
> releases.
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> The only complication would be that each RM would
> need
>     > valid
>     >     >     >> credentials to spin up the server.
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>> Harbs
>     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >> >>>>>
>     >     >     >> >>>>> A better solution, IMO, is for someone else to
> offer up
>     > a CI
>     >     > server
>     >     >     >> only for release jobs.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
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