On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Did you reboot your VM?  Also, have you checked what user is running
> Jenkins on your VM?  I think that can sometimes be a problem.  I might be
> running Jenkins as the user.
>
>
Agents don't require Jenkins to be running.  I will give the rebooting of
the VM a shot .

Thanks,
Om


> -Alex
>
> On 4/19/20, 10:01 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:55 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>     > Should be here:
>     >
>     >
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>
>     My git is located in the same exact location as master.
>     Moreover, the git call from the commandline executes fine.  The git
> call
>     from ant exec is what is failing.
>
>
>
>     >
>     >
>     > HTH,
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > From: OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]>
>     > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>     > Date: Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM
>     > To: Apache Royale Development <[email protected]>
>     > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >
>     > I'm a bit stumped here.  The royale-compiler is failing with this
> error:
>     >
>     >
>     > BUILD FAILED
>     >
>     > c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler\jenkins.xml:55: Execute failed:
>     > java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "git" (in directory
>     > "c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler"): CreateProcess error=2, The
> system
>     > cannot find the file specified
>     >
>     >   at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source)
>     >
>     >
>     > It is from this part of the jenkins.xml:
>     >
>     >
>     >     <target name="closure-lib-download" description="Copies Closure
>     > Library from GitHub">
>     >         <echo message="Be patient. This takes a few minutes..." />
>     >         <exec executable="git" failifexecutionfails="true">
>     >             <arg value="clone" />
>     >             <arg value="
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>     > />
>     >             <arg value="${closure.root}" />
>     >         </exec>
>     >         <echo>Cloned fresh copy of Google Closure Library</echo>
>     >     </target>
>     >
>     > I am not sure how this executable call works without the full path.
>     >
>     > I checked the env variables, I do have both the git/bin and git/cmd
>     > directory in the PATH:
>     >
>     > [cid:ii_k97zkk9o0]
>     >
>     > What am I missing?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Om
>     >
>     > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:54 PM OmPrakash Muppirala <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     > Update - I have successfully attached my VM as a slave agent of our
>     > Jenkins instance.
>     > I am going to pull the job - /royale-asjs_jsonly and tie it to my
> agent so
>     > I can test it.
>     >
>     > It will fail for a sometime while I go set up my VM with all the
>     > dependencies.
>     >
>     > Once we have the job successfully building on my VM, we can figure
> out how
>     > to divide the load between the master and agent.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Om
>     >
>     > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:59 AM OmPrakash Muppirala <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     > We could achieve the same by creating a new agent (separate vm) and
>     > attaching it as a slave to the current Jenkins server.
>     >
>     > Then we can use labels/tags to tie release jobs to one agent and non
>     > release jobs to another agent.
>     >
>     > That way we can maintain everything in one UI, one login while
> achieving
>     > the concurrent building capabilities we want.
>     >
>     > Jenkins is built for this kind of stuff and I think it would be best
> we
>     > followed this practice.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Om
>     > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 8:18 AM Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>     > Om, I thought you were going to get the image from my VM and run it
> on
>     > another VM.  Then we'd remove all non-release jobs from your VM and
> all of
>     > the release jobs from my VM.  That won't solve the problem of how
> long it
>     > takes for a commit to be built and tested, but will allow the RM to
> get a
>     > release out without getting stuck behind the commit jobs.  Is that
>     > currently the plan?
>     >
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 4/18/20, 12:43 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]
> <mailto:
>     > [email protected]>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Makes sense to me.  I will set parallel executors back to 1.
>     >
>     >     And start working on a new Jenkins instance.
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Om
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 AM Alex Harui
> <[email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     > Are you saying that Java, Ant and Maven do not know how to
>     > distribute work
>     >     > to different cores?
>     >     >
>     >     > To repeat my main concern:  our Jenkins jobs often use shared
>     > resources.
>     >     > If you want to take the time to fix that, feel free, but I do
> not
>     > know how
>     >     > you are going to keep two jobs from both trying to launch Flash
>     > Player
>     >     > Debugger at the same time and open the same socket to
> communicate
>     > with it,
>     >     > or try to parse the flashlog.txt that they have both written
> to.
>     >     >
>     >     > The royale-asjs job will use the royale-compiler workspace to
> get the
>     >     > compiler.  If the compiler is building, the jars are not there
> and
>     > the
>     >     > royale-asjs build fails.
>     >     >
>     >     > There is also only so much memory and some of our jobs use all
> of it
>     > and
>     >     > I'm not sure if jobs slowed down due to paging memory and
>     > writing/reading
>     >     > from disk, even if it is an SSD.
>     >     >
>     >     > I'm done for tonight, but that's what I was seeing last time I
> tried
>     > to
>     >     > have both master and an agent running jobs in parallel.
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks,
>     >     > -Alex
>     >     >
>     >     > On 4/17/20, 11:52 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     A typical setup would be to have 0 executors on master and
> at
>     > least n
>     >     >     number of executors on each agent, where n = number of cpu
> cores.
>     >     >     I see that the current VM has 2 cores.  So, I started with
>     > setting the
>     >     > num
>     >     >     executors on the current agent to 2.
>     >     >
>     >     >     This should improve things quite a bit.  If this doesn't
> work, I
>     > will
>     >     >     create a new VM and make it the slave agent of the current
>     > Jenkins
>     >     > master.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     Om
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:31 PM Alex Harui
>     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     > On your VM or mine?  I don't think mine can handle it.
> I used
>     > to
>     >     > run jobs
>     >     >     > of master and agent and we got lots of failures and jobs
> took
>     >     > forever.  If
>     >     >     > two jobs are trying to run tests with the shared Flash
> Player
>     >     > Debugger, for
>     >     >     > example, you won't get consistent results.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 4/17/20, 11:23 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     I just realized that we have only one Agent (node)
> listed
>     > under
>     >     >     > Jenkins.  I
>     >     >     >     am going to add at least one more node to start with.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     Om
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:58 AM Alex Harui
>     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I think I followed the instructions and enabled
> SSH.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > On 4/16/20, 9:37 AM, "Yishay Weiss" <
>     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     I haven’t gotten it to work. Could be ssh
> needs to be
>     >     > enabled on
>     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     > VM [1]. This is nice to have but not essential. So
> Alex,
>     > let
>     >     > me know
>     >     >     > if you
>     >     >     >     > want to try that, otherwise I’ll suspend my
> efforts on
>     > this.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     [1]
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:09 PM
>     >     >     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     I’d like to try and install an ssh server. Can
> anyone
>     >     > think of a
>     >     >     >     > reason not to do that? I’m asking in terms of
> security,
>     > and if
>     >     > there
>     >     >     > might
>     >     >     >     > be a problem because it’s a VM.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Thanks.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:02 AM
>     >     >     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Related, as most (all?) of the instructions
> don’t
>     > require
>     >     >     > anything but
>     >     >     >     > a shell wouldn’t it be easier and faster to access
> the
>     > machine
>     >     > with
>     >     >     > ssh
>     >     >     >     > [1], rather than using remote desktop?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     [1]
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
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>     >
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>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:55 AM
>     >     >     >     >     To: [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Can’t you do that with remote desktop?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     ________________________________
>     >     >     >     >     From: OmPrakash Muppirala <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:51:25 AM
>     >     >     >     >     To: Apache Royale Development <
> [email protected]
>     > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Alex,
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     I believe this is your personal Azure
> subscription
>     > right?
>     >     > Any
>     >     >     > chance
>     >     >     >     > I can
>     >     >     >     >     get access to it so I can try to copy the
> image out
>     > the
>     >     > machine
>     >     >     > and
>     >     >     >     >     redeploy it somewhere else?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     Om
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 6:18 PM OmPrakash
> Muppirala <
>     >     >     >     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > I can help set this up on Azure.  Give me
> some
>     > time to
>     >     > work
>     >     >     > out the
>     >     >     >     >     > details?
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     > Om
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:49 AM Harbs <
>     >     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >> OK. Good to know.
>     >     >     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     >     > <[email protected]
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> > FWIW, I just looked and the longest job
> in the
>     > release
>     >     >     > steps so
>     >     >     >     > far is
>     >     >     >     >     >> 8 minutes.  Most are under 2 minutes.  There
>     > might be
>     >     > jobs
>     >     >     > later
>     >     >     >     > that take
>     >     >     >     >     >> longer that we haven't run yet.  IMO, the
> issue
>     > isn't
>     >     > speed
>     >     >     > of the
>     >     >     >     > machine,
>     >     >     >     >     >> it is just that we are sharing the machine
> with
>     > longer
>     >     > jobs
>     >     >     > (1 hour
>     >     >     >     > for
>     >     >     >     >     >> TourDeFlexMigration).  And again, the
> machine
>     > will be
>     >     > idle for
>     >     >     >     > stretches of
>     >     >     >     >     >> time while the RM verifies artifacts after
> each
>     > step.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> > On 4/12/20, 11:32 AM, "Harbs" <
>     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >     >     >> [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    Fair enough.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    I expect builds to be somewhere
> between 10
>     > and 20
>     >     > times
>     >     >     > faster
>     >     >     >     > on a
>     >     >     >     >     >> powerful machine.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    Yeah. It’s probably going to be a bit
> of work
>     >     > changing
>     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     > server,
>     >     >     >     >     >> but probably worth it in the long run.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    I think I’ll try this when I do the
> next
>     > release
>     >     > unless
>     >     >     > Yishay
>     >     >     >     > wants
>     >     >     >     >     >> to work with me on this for this release —
> but
>     > I’m not
>     >     > going
>     >     >     > to be
>     >     >     >     > able to
>     >     >     >     >     >> help until after Passover (i.e. next week).
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     >> >    Harbs
>     >     >     >     >     >> >
>     >     >     >     >     >> >> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     >     > <[email protected]
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >> The Azure portal says: Standard F2s_v2 (2
>     > vcpus, 4
>     >     > GiB
>     >     >     > memory)
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >> I think I am reading changes to the build
>     > process in
>     >     > your
>     >     >     >     >     >> suggestions.  I do not really want to spend
> more
>     > of my
>     >     > time
>     >     >     > on this
>     >     >     >     >     >> process.  But if you want to do the work,
> that's
>     > fine
>     >     > with me.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >> -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >> On 4/12/20, 10:57 AM, "Harbs" <
>     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >     >     >> [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>
>     >     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >     >     >> [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>   What kind of horsepower is included in
> the
>     > free
>     >     > Azure
>     >     >     > account?
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>   The server I mentioned builds
> (considerably)
>     >     > faster than
>     >     >     > my own
>     >     >     >     >     >> local machine. The ci server seems to build
> many
>     > times
>     >     > slower.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>   One thing we can do to minimize running
>     > server time
>     >     >     > would be to
>     >     >     >     >     >> transfer the artifacts to storage instead of
>     > keeping
>     >     > them on
>     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     > server. On
>     >     >     >     >     >> AWS, I’d probably use S3. Not sure what the
>     > similar
>     >     > service on
>     >     >     >     > Azure is
>     >     >     >     >     >> called.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     >     >     > <[email protected]
>     >     >     >     >     >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>> OK, that's pretty much how I understand
> Azure
>     > as
>     >     > well.
>     >     >     > The key
>     >     >     >     > thing
>     >     >     >     >     >> is that "running" includes time where the CI
>     > server is
>     >     > not
>     >     >     > running
>     >     >     >     > any
>     >     >     >     >     >> Jenkins jobs.  The CI Server steps might
> take
>     > only a few
>     >     >     > hours of
>     >     >     >     > actual
>     >     >     >     >     >> server time, but there is time where the RM
> is
>     > verifying
>     >     >     > artifacts
>     >     >     >     > locally
>     >     >     >     >     >> so you'd be paying for that or the RM would
> have
>     > to keep
>     >     >     > shutting
>     >     >     >     > down and
>     >     >     >     >     >> restarting.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>> Seems like it would be cheaper/simpler
> to get
>     > the
>     >     > free
>     >     >     > MSDN
>     >     >     >     > account
>     >     >     >     >     >> and leave it running.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>> -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>> On 4/12/20, 10:15 AM, "Harbs" <
>     >     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     >     > <mailto:
>     >     >     >     >     >> [email protected]<mailto:
>     > [email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  My experience is with AWS.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  I assume Microsoft has similar
> offerings,
>     > but I
>     >     > don’t
>     >     >     > have
>     >     >     >     >     >> experience with Azure.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  AWS has on-demand EC2 instances which
> you
>     > pay for
>     >     > only
>     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     > actual
>     >     >     >     >     >> time that they are running.[1]
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  Instances can be started and stopped
> via
>     > command
>     >     > line
>     >     >     > (or via
>     >     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     >     >> web interface) as long as you have valid
>     > credentials to
>     >     > do so.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  For example: an m5.4xlarge instance
> has 16
>     > cores
>     >     > and
>     >     >     > costs
>     >     >     >     > about
>     >     >     >     >     >> $1.5 per hour. On a machine like that, a
> full
>     > build
>     >     > would
>     >     >     > probably
>     >     >     >     > take
>     >     >     >     >     >> less than 10 minutes. It’s probably
> possible to
>     > do a
>     >     > full
>     >     >     > release
>     >     >     >     > with only
>     >     >     >     >     >> a few hours of server time.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  Leaving a server like that running all
> the
>     > time
>     >     > would get
>     >     >     >     > expensive,
>     >     >     >     >     >> but if it’s just spun up for releases,
> you’d get
>     > very
>     >     > fast
>     >     >     > builds
>     >     >     >     > at a
>     >     >     >     >     >> reasonable price.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  I’d be happy to pay $10-$50 (and
> possibly
>     > more) per
>     >     >     > release to
>     >     >     >     > make
>     >     >     >     >     >> the release process painless for the RM.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>  [1]
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>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Alex Harui
>     >     >     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> I'm not very experienced with spinning
> up
>     >     > servers.  The
>     >     >     > CI
>     >     >     >     > server we
>     >     >     >     >     >> are using is effectively free, based on a
> generous
>     >     > donation
>     >     >     > from
>     >     >     >     > Microsoft
>     >     >     >     >     >> of MSDN accounts to ASF committers.  So I
> leave
>     > it up
>     >     > 24/7,
>     >     >     > and
>     >     >     >     > share the
>     >     >     >     >     >> RDP access on private@.  I think any other
> ASF
>     >     > committer
>     >     >     > could do
>     >     >     >     > the
>     >     >     >     >     >> same.  IIRC, if that server actually is
> stopped,
>     > I have
>     >     > to
>     >     >     > use my
>     >     >     >     > personal
>     >     >     >     >     >> (unshared) MSDN credentials to start it
> again.
>     >  AIUI,
>     >     > if I
>     >     >     >     > actually paid
>     >     >     >     >     >> for the server, it would cost me to leave it
>     > running
>     >     > even if
>     >     >     > it
>     >     >     >     > didn't run
>     >     >     >     >     >> jobs between releases.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> Is that what you are basically
> saying?  I
>     > think it
>     >     > might
>     >     >     > be
>     >     >     >     > best if
>     >     >     >     >     >> another committer got a CI server going via
> the MS
>     >     > donation
>     >     >     > and
>     >     >     >     > could leave
>     >     >     >     >     >> it up 24/7.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> On 4/12/20, 9:28 AM, "Harbs" <
>     >     > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> I’m willing to do this.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> Considering that the release will be
> run
>     >     > infrequently, it
>     >     >     >     > should be
>     >     >     >     >     >> doable to have a relatively powerful server
> that
>     > could
>     >     > be
>     >     >     > spun up on
>     >     >     >     >     >> demand. This is something I have setup for
> my own
>     >     > releases.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> The only complication would be that
> each RM
>     > would
>     >     > need
>     >     >     > valid
>     >     >     >     >     >> credentials to spin up the server.
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>> Harbs
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Alex
> Harui
>     >     >     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>>
>     >     >     >     >     >> >>>>> A better solution, IMO, is for
> someone else
>     > to
>     >     > offer up
>     >     >     > a CI
>     >     >     >     > server
>     >     >     >     >     >> only for release jobs.
>     >     >     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >
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