On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:08 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:
> Congratulations! But does that mean that JAVA_HOME is pointing at a JRE > instead of a JDK? If you have other issues that might be a factor. > Yeah, I messed up initially by getting the JRE instead of JDK. I have since corrected it. But for some reason Ant still thinks that JAVA_HOME is the jre directory. I don't know how to fix this, hence the hack :-| > > HTH, > -Alex > > On 4/19/20, 10:50 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I copied tools.jar from jdk/lib to the jre/lib. That seems to have > fixed > the issue. > We now have a successful build of the royale-compiler on the new Agent > machine!! > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:44 PM OmPrakash Muppirala < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > Restart dint help. Although Serkan's reply made me look at how Ant > was > > getting invoked. > > > > I see this warning that tools.jar is missing: > > > > [royale-compiler] $ cmd.exe /C > "C:\apache\apache-ant-1.9.9\bin\ant.bat -file jenkins.xml > -Denv.ASJS_HOME=C:\jenkins\workspace\royale-asjs main && exit > %%ERRORLEVEL%%" > > > > Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in C:\Program > Files\Java\jre1.8.0_251\lib\tools.jar > > > > > > I am pretty sure this is related to this issue. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:29 PM OmPrakash Muppirala < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM Alex Harui > <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Did you reboot your VM? Also, have you checked what user is > running > >>> Jenkins on your VM? I think that can sometimes be a problem. I > might be > >>> running Jenkins as the user. > >>> > >>> > >> Agents don't require Jenkins to be running. I will give the > rebooting of > >> the VM a shot . > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Om > >> > >> > >>> -Alex > >>> > >>> On 4/19/20, 10:01 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:55 PM Alex Harui > <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Should be here: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapacheroyaleci2.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com%3A8080%2FconfigureTools%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200405113&sdata=RhBraBN5pQDVrqAbMoXKejWBTwyqtSwd7DURGcQSwUg%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > >>> > >>> My git is located in the same exact location as master. > >>> Moreover, the git call from the commandline executes fine. > The git > >>> call > >>> from ant exec is what is failing. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > HTH, > >>> > -Alex > >>> > > >>> > From: OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]> > >>> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>> > Date: Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM > >>> > To: Apache Royale Development <[email protected]> > >>> > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI > >>> > > >>> > I'm a bit stumped here. The royale-compiler is failing with > this > >>> error: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > BUILD FAILED > >>> > > >>> > c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler\jenkins.xml:55: Execute > >>> failed: > >>> > java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "git" (in directory > >>> > "c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler"): CreateProcess > error=2, > >>> The system > >>> > cannot find the file specified > >>> > > >>> > at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > It is from this part of the jenkins.xml: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > <target name="closure-lib-download" description="Copies > Closure > >>> > Library from GitHub"> > >>> > <echo message="Be patient. This takes a few > minutes..." /> > >>> > <exec executable="git" failifexecutionfails="true"> > >>> > <arg value="clone" /> > >>> > <arg value=" > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgoogle%2Fclosure-library&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200405113&sdata=AJO8lF1H7VG%2Fy9T1I9p0%2Fsqjh8cQ8U8exbInYHyuch0%3D&reserved=0 > >>> < > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgoogle%2Fclosure-library&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200415104&sdata=2%2BG3WpItozbraXCp2Q4XACBXizsHNZQYMAgiSaaPXwo%3D&reserved=0 > >>> >" > >>> > /> > >>> > <arg value="${closure.root}" /> > >>> > </exec> > >>> > <echo>Cloned fresh copy of Google Closure > Library</echo> > >>> > </target> > >>> > > >>> > I am not sure how this executable call works without the > full path. > >>> > > >>> > I checked the env variables, I do have both the git/bin and > git/cmd > >>> > directory in the PATH: > >>> > > >>> > [cid:ii_k97zkk9o0] > >>> > > >>> > What am I missing? > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Om > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:54 PM OmPrakash Muppirala < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > Update - I have successfully attached my VM as a slave agent > of our > >>> > Jenkins instance. > >>> > I am going to pull the job - /royale-asjs_jsonly and tie it > to my > >>> agent so > >>> > I can test it. > >>> > > >>> > It will fail for a sometime while I go set up my VM with all > the > >>> > dependencies. > >>> > > >>> > Once we have the job successfully building on my VM, we can > figure > >>> out how > >>> > to divide the load between the master and agent. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Om > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:59 AM OmPrakash Muppirala < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > We could achieve the same by creating a new agent (separate > vm) and > >>> > attaching it as a slave to the current Jenkins server. > >>> > > >>> > Then we can use labels/tags to tie release jobs to one agent > and > >>> non > >>> > release jobs to another agent. > >>> > > >>> > That way we can maintain everything in one UI, one login > while > >>> achieving > >>> > the concurrent building capabilities we want. > >>> > > >>> > Jenkins is built for this kind of stuff and I think it would > be > >>> best we > >>> > followed this practice. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Om > >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 8:18 AM Alex Harui > <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Om, I thought you were going to get the image from my VM and > run > >>> it on > >>> > another VM. Then we'd remove all non-release jobs from your > VM > >>> and all of > >>> > the release jobs from my VM. That won't solve the problem > of how > >>> long it > >>> > takes for a commit to be built and tested, but will allow > the RM > >>> to get a > >>> > release out without getting stuck behind the commit jobs. > Is that > >>> > currently the plan? > >>> > > >>> > -Alex > >>> > > >>> > On 4/18/20, 12:43 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > [email protected] > >>> <mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Makes sense to me. I will set parallel executors back > to 1. > >>> > > >>> > And start working on a new Jenkins instance. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Om > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 AM Alex Harui > >>> <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > Are you saying that Java, Ant and Maven do not know > how to > >>> > distribute work > >>> > > to different cores? > >>> > > > >>> > > To repeat my main concern: our Jenkins jobs often use > shared > >>> > resources. > >>> > > If you want to take the time to fix that, feel free, > but I > >>> do not > >>> > know how > >>> > > you are going to keep two jobs from both trying to > launch > >>> Flash > >>> > Player > >>> > > Debugger at the same time and open the same socket to > >>> communicate > >>> > with it, > >>> > > or try to parse the flashlog.txt that they have both > written > >>> to. > >>> > > > >>> > > The royale-asjs job will use the royale-compiler > workspace > >>> to get the > >>> > > compiler. If the compiler is building, the jars are > not > >>> there and > >>> > the > >>> > > royale-asjs build fails. > >>> > > > >>> > > There is also only so much memory and some of our jobs > use > >>> all of it > >>> > and > >>> > > I'm not sure if jobs slowed down due to paging memory > and > >>> > writing/reading > >>> > > from disk, even if it is an SSD. > >>> > > > >>> > > I'm done for tonight, but that's what I was seeing > last time > >>> I tried > >>> > to > >>> > > have both master and an agent running jobs in parallel. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks, > >>> > > -Alex > >>> > > > >>> > > On 4/17/20, 11:52 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > A typical setup would be to have 0 executors on > master > >>> and at > >>> > least n > >>> > > number of executors on each agent, where n = > number of > >>> cpu cores. > >>> > > I see that the current VM has 2 cores. So, I > started > >>> with > >>> > setting the > >>> > > num > >>> > > executors on the current agent to 2. > >>> > > > >>> > > This should improve things quite a bit. If this > doesn't > >>> work, I > >>> > will > >>> > > create a new VM and make it the slave agent of the > >>> current > >>> > Jenkins > >>> > > master. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks, > >>> > > Om > >>> > > > >>> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:31 PM Alex Harui > >>> > <[email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > On your VM or mine? I don't think mine can > handle > >>> it. I used > >>> > to > >>> > > run jobs > >>> > > > of master and agent and we got lots of failures > and > >>> jobs took > >>> > > forever. If > >>> > > > two jobs are trying to run tests with the shared > Flash > >>> Player > >>> > > Debugger, for > >>> > > > example, you won't get consistent results. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > -Alex > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On 4/17/20, 11:23 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > >>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I just realized that we have only one Agent > (node) > >>> listed > >>> > under > >>> > > > Jenkins. I > >>> > > > am going to add at least one more node to > start > >>> with. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > Om > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:58 AM Alex Harui > >>> > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I think I followed the instructions and > enabled > >>> SSH. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On 4/16/20, 9:37 AM, "Yishay Weiss" < > >>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > I haven’t gotten it to work. Could be > ssh > >>> needs to be > >>> > > enabled on > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > VM [1]. This is nice to have but not > essential. > >>> So Alex, > >>> > let > >>> > > me know > >>> > > > if you > >>> > > > > want to try that, otherwise I’ll suspend my > >>> efforts on > >>> > this. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > [1] > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Ftechinpieces%2Fpractical-azure-how-to-enable-ssh-on-azure-vm-84d8fba8103e&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200415104&sdata=iTpXVF%2FutxSXTYw3soghKAmTu3Ysp5J75aOyIHJjxCo%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > < > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Ftechinpieces%2Fpractical-azure-how-to-enable-ssh-on-azure-vm-84d8fba8103e&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200415104&sdata=iTpXVF%2FutxSXTYw3soghKAmTu3Ysp5J75aOyIHJjxCo%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto: > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:09 PM > >>> > > > > To: [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs > on CI > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > I’d like to try and install an ssh > server. > >>> Can anyone > >>> > > think of a > >>> > > > > reason not to do that? I’m asking in terms > of > >>> security, > >>> > and if > >>> > > there > >>> > > > might > >>> > > > > be a problem because it’s a VM. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto: > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:02 AM > >>> > > > > To: [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs > on CI > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Related, as most (all?) of the > instructions > >>> don’t > >>> > require > >>> > > > anything but > >>> > > > > a shell wouldn’t it be easier and faster to > >>> access the > >>> > machine > >>> > > with > >>> > > > ssh > >>> > > > > [1], rather than using remote desktop? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > [1] > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows-server%2Fadministration%2Fopenssh%2Fopenssh_install_firstuse&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200415104&sdata=1aVR8ZhJ5a82g3v%2FNfYYUxX5fhVZqLkvKb%2BpFS0xeEg%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > < > >>> > > >>> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows-server%2Fadministration%2Fopenssh%2Fopenssh_install_firstuse&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cae66be53fa804cc3c74108d7e4eeb2a3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637229586200415104&sdata=1aVR8ZhJ5a82g3v%2FNfYYUxX5fhVZqLkvKb%2BpFS0xeEg%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto: > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:55 AM > >>> > > > > To: [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs > on CI > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Can’t you do that with remote desktop? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > ________________________________ > >>> > > > > From: OmPrakash Muppirala < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:51:25 AM > >>> > > > > To: Apache Royale Development < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs > on CI > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Alex, > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > I believe this is your personal Azure > >>> subscription > >>> > right? > >>> > > Any > >>> > > > chance > >>> > > > > I can > >>> > > > > get access to it so I can try to copy > the > >>> image out > >>> > the > >>> > > machine > >>> > > > and > >>> > > > > redeploy it somewhere else? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > Om > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 6:18 PM > OmPrakash > >>> Muppirala < > >>> > > > > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected] > >>> >> > >>> > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I can help set this up on Azure. > Give me > >>> some > >>> > time to > >>> > > work > >>> > > > out the > >>> > > > > > details? > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > > Om > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:49 AM Harbs > < > >>> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> OK. Good to know. > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Alex > Harui > >>> > > > <[email protected] > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > FWIW, I just looked and the > longest job > >>> in the > >>> > release > >>> > > > steps so > >>> > > > > far is > >>> > > > > >> 8 minutes. Most are under 2 > minutes. > >>> There > >>> > might be > >>> > > jobs > >>> > > > later > >>> > > > > that take > >>> > > > > >> longer that we haven't run yet. > IMO, the > >>> issue > >>> > isn't > >>> > > speed > >>> > > > of the > >>> > > > > machine, > >>> > > > > >> it is just that we are sharing the > >>> machine with > >>> > longer > >>> > > jobs > >>> > > > (1 hour > >>> > > > > for > >>> > > > > >> TourDeFlexMigration). And again, > the > >>> machine > >>> > will be > >>> > > idle for > >>> > > > > stretches of > >>> > > > > >> time while the RM verifies artifacts > >>> after each > >>> > step. > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > -Alex > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > On 4/12/20, 11:32 AM, "Harbs" < > >>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > > > <mailto: > >>> > > > > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > Fair enough. > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > I expect builds to be somewhere > >>> between 10 > >>> > and 20 > >>> > > times > >>> > > > faster > >>> > > > > on a > >>> > > > > >> powerful machine. > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > Yeah. It’s probably going to > be a > >>> bit of work > >>> > > changing > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > server, > >>> > > > > >> but probably worth it in the long > run. > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > I think I’ll try this when I > do the > >>> next > >>> > release > >>> > > unless > >>> > > > Yishay > >>> > > > > wants > >>> > > > > >> to work with me on this for this > release > >>> — but > >>> > I’m not > >>> > > going > >>> > > > to be > >>> > > > > able to > >>> > > > > >> help until after Passover (i.e. next > >>> week). > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > Thanks, > >>> > > > > >> > Harbs > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> >> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:22 PM, > Alex Harui > >>> > > > <[email protected] > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> The Azure portal says: Standard > F2s_v2 > >>> (2 > >>> > vcpus, 4 > >>> > > GiB > >>> > > > memory) > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> I think I am reading changes to > the > >>> build > >>> > process in > >>> > > your > >>> > > > > >> suggestions. I do not really want > to > >>> spend more > >>> > of my > >>> > > time > >>> > > > on this > >>> > > > > >> process. But if you want to do the > work, > >>> that's > >>> > fine > >>> > > with me. > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> -Alex > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> On 4/12/20, 10:57 AM, "Harbs" < > >>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > > > <mailto: > >>> > > > > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto: > >>> > [email protected]> > >>> > > <mailto: > >>> > > > > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> What kind of horsepower is > included > >>> in the > >>> > free > >>> > > Azure > >>> > > > account? > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> The server I mentioned builds > >>> (considerably) > >>> > > faster than > >>> > > > my own > >>> > > > > >> local machine. The ci server seems > to > >>> build many > >>> > times > >>> > > slower. > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >> One thing we can do to minimize > >>> running > >>> > server time > >>> > > > would be to > >>> > > > > >> transfer the artifacts to storage > instead > >>> of > >>> > keeping > >>> > > them on > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > server. On > >>> > > > > >> AWS, I’d probably use S3. Not sure > what > >>> the > >>> > similar > >>> > > service on > >>> > > > > Azure is > >>> > > > > >> called. > >>> > > > > >> >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:26 PM, > Alex > >>> Harui > >>> > > > > <[email protected] > >>> > > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> OK, that's pretty much how I > >>> understand Azure > >>> > as > >>> > > well. > >>> > > > The key > >>> > > > > thing > >>> > > > > >> is that "running" includes time > where the > >>> CI > >>> > server is > >>> > > not > >>> > > > running > >>> > > > > any > >>> > > > > >> Jenkins jobs. The CI Server steps > might > >>> take > >>> > only a few > >>> > > > hours of > >>> > > > > actual > >>> > > > > >> server time, but there is time > where the > >>> RM is > >>> > verifying > >>> > > > artifacts > >>> > > > > locally > >>> > > > > >> so you'd be paying for that or the > RM > >>> would have > >>> > to keep > >>> > > > shutting > >>> > > > > down and > >>> > > > > >> restarting. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> Seems like it would be > >>> cheaper/simpler to get > >>> > the > >>> > > free > >>> > > > MSDN > >>> > > > > account > >>> > > > > >> and leave it running. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> -Alex > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> On 4/12/20, 10:15 AM, "Harbs" < > >>> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > > > <mailto: > >>> > > > > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >>> > [email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> My experience is with AWS. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> I assume Microsoft has similar > >>> offerings, > >>> > but I > >>> > > don’t > >>> > > > have > >>> > > > > >> experience with Azure. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> AWS has on-demand EC2 instances > >>> which you > >>> > pay for > >>> > > only > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > actual > >>> > > > > >> time that they are running.[1] > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> Instances can be started and > stopped > >>> via > >>> > command > >>> > > line > >>> > > > (or via > >>> > > > > the > >>> > > > > >> web interface) as long as you have > valid > >>> > credentials to > >>> > > do so. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> For example: an m5.4xlarge > instance > >>> has 16 > >>> > cores > >>> > > and > >>> > > > costs > >>> > > > > about > >>> > > > > >> $1.5 per hour. On a machine like > that, a > >>> full > >>> > build > >>> > > would > >>> > > > probably > >>> > > > > take > >>> > > > > >> less than 10 minutes. It’s probably > >>> possible to > >>> > do a > >>> > > full > >>> > > > release > >>> > > > > with only > >>> > > > > >> a few hours of server time. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> Leaving a server like that > running > >>> all the > >>> > time > >>> > > would get > >>> > > > > expensive, > >>> > > > > >> but if it’s just spun up for > releases, > >>> you’d get > >>> > very > >>> > > fast > >>> > > > builds > >>> > > > > at a > >>> > > > > >> reasonable price. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> I’d be happy to pay $10-$50 > (and > >>> possibly > >>> > more) per > >>> > > > release to > >>> > > > > make > >>> > > > > >> the release process painless for > the RM. > >>> > > > > >> >>> > >>> > > > > >> >>> [1] > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > 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The > >>> > > > CI > >>> > > > > server we > >>> > > > > >> are using is effectively free, > based on a > >>> generous > >>> > > donation > >>> > > > from > >>> > > > > Microsoft > >>> > > > > >> of MSDN accounts to ASF > committers. So I > >>> leave > >>> > it up > >>> > > 24/7, > >>> > > > and > >>> > > > > share the > >>> > > > > >> RDP access on private@. I think > any > >>> other ASF > >>> > > committer > >>> > > > could do > >>> > > > > the > >>> > > > > >> same. IIRC, if that server > actually is > >>> stopped, > >>> > I have > >>> > > to > >>> > > > use my > >>> > > > > personal > >>> > > > > >> (unshared) MSDN credentials to > start it > >>> again. > >>> > AIUI, > >>> > > if I > >>> > > > > actually paid > >>> > > > > >> for the server, it would cost me to > leave > >>> it > >>> > running > >>> > > even if > >>> > > > it > >>> > > > > didn't run > >>> > > > > >> jobs between releases. > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> Is that what you are basically > >>> saying? I > >>> > think it > >>> > > might > >>> > > > be > >>> > > > > best if > >>> > > > > >> another committer got a CI server > going > >>> via the MS > >>> > > donation > >>> > > > and > >>> > > > > could leave > >>> > > > > >> it up 24/7. > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> -Alex > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> On 4/12/20, 9:28 AM, "Harbs" < > >>> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> I’m willing to do this. > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> Considering that the release > will be > >>> run > >>> > > infrequently, it > >>> > > > > should be > >>> > > > > >> doable to have a relatively powerful > >>> server that > >>> > could > >>> > > be > >>> > > > spun up on > >>> > > > > >> demand. This is something I have > setup > >>> for my own > >>> > > releases. > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> The only complication would be > that > >>> each RM > >>> > would > >>> > > need > >>> > > > valid > >>> > > > > >> credentials to spin up the server. > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>> Harbs > >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:10 PM, > Alex > >>> Harui > >>> > > > > <[email protected]> > >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >>> > > > > >> >>>>> > >>> > > > > >> >>>>> A better solution, IMO, is for > >>> someone else > >>> > to > >>> > > offer up > >>> > > > a CI > >>> > > > > server > >>> > > > > >> only for release jobs. > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >
