Hi Alex,

one of the moderators can also send commands to add the email address to the 
list of allowed senders. So it doesn't have to be an apache email address, as 
far as I know.

Chris


Am 21.04.20, 08:44 schrieb "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>:

    I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to finish so have some time to 
think about this more.

    My understanding is that we would need to send from an a.o email address to 
have it end up on commits@.  I don't know how to do that on a shared machine.

    Maybe we should agree on what the problem is before looking for solutions.  
To me, the problem seems mostly unsolvable.  As a PMC member you are supposed 
to be watching the commits, and as a committer, you need to know if you broke 
the build, and as a community member, you should help fix the build even if you 
didn't break it.  Moving CI emails out of your inbox via another list or a 
filter certainly will save you time, but doesn't seem fair to others.  Because 
if you aren't doing your share of commit reviews, or if you don't see right 
away that you might have broken the build then others have more work to do or 
can't get their work done.

    And  if we were a busier project, we might have rules on whether you can 
commit while the build is broken or not so as not to make it harder for the 
person trying to fix the build to fix it.

    But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that you don't really need to 
read.  How can anyone know which ones to read and which ones can be skipped?  
And what tools can be used to make that happen?  Are there email tools that can 
tell if someone is working on a broken build?  Can Jenkins tell us more in each 
failure message so you can filter out a series of broken build emails?  Maybe 
that's what we should be figuring out.

    My 2 cents,
    -Alex

    On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:

        It's end up with using Dev, so I would like to get back to idea of 
having
        either separate mailing list or sending that to  commits@royale.a.o - 
Your
        last comments indicates that email was still rejected - Is it still the
        case ?

        wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> 
napisał(a):

        > I already asked.  See: INFRA-15722
        >
        >
        > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
        >
        >     To me argument of having info that server failed vs have cleaned 
inbox
        >     finally - I'm choosing to have inbox cleaned.
        >
        >     If Apache rejected email from Jenkins on commits@ I can ask infra
        > what can
        >     be done.
        >
        >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex Harui 
<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
        > wrote:
        >
        >     > I've been unable to get the CI server to send to commits@.  
Apache
        > blocks
        >     > it.
        >     >
        >     > Maybe issues@, but these aren't about issues.
        >     >
        >     > IMO, the point of these Jenkins emails is so that all committers
        > know the
        >     > current state of the builds and help fix issues when possible.  
My
        > concern
        >     > is that when committers start filtering CI emails they will miss
        > when one
        >     > of their commits breaks the build.  So, the only reason to 
split CI
        > emails
        >     > off this list is to reduce traffic to the non-committers.
        >     >
        >     > My 2 cents,
        >     > -Alex
        >     >
        >     > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" 
<bigosma...@gmail.com>
        > wrote:
        >     >
        >     >     We already have issues@ and commits@.  Can we redirect the
        > emails to
        >     > one of
        >     >     the lists?
        >     >
        >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54 AM Alex Harui
        > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
        >     >     wrote:
        >     >
        >     >     > IMO, if we do create a new list, all committers must be
        > subscribed.
        >     >     >
        >     >     > My 2 cents,
        >     >     > -Alex
        >     >     >
        >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
        > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
        >     > wrote:
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     Hi Guys,
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     In the last year or so all notifications from Jenkins
        > build are
        >     > going
        >     >     > to
        >     >     >     development mailing list. It becomes very messy I see
        > every day
        >     > 40-50
        >     >     >     emails where 80% of that is notification from Jenkins.
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     I would like to propose create separate mailing list 
to
        > have such
        >     >     >     notifications there.
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     Is it possible?
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     Please share your thoughts on that subject.
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     Thanks,
        >     >     >     --
        >     >     >
        >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
        >     >     >
        >     >     >
        >     >     >
        >     >
        >     >
        >     >
        >
        >
        >

        -- 

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