Hi Guys,

Email is still rejected. I'm going to comment in raised jira that we would
like to redirect our messages to commits . I don't see in the comments of
jira concrete solution and when to execute them - they are mention about
some config - If someone know where I should look I will otherwise I'm
going to raise again discussion in jira.

Thanks,
Piotr

czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:40 Alex Harui <[email protected]> napisał(a):

> I got a strange text this evening.  It had a long string of numbers and
> the word "Google" at the end.  No other identifying words.  So I just
> deleted it thinking it was spam.
>
> Anyway, I RDP'd to the CI Server and used the Chrome Browser to login.  It
> did not ask for a code for my phone, but Google said that it was a new
> device.  Maybe I used FF last time from the CI Server.  It is probably best
> if you use the CI Server to get to the gmail for the server.  That way I
> don't have to authenticate every PMC member from their location.  I left
> Chrome up with Gmail.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> On 4/22/20, 11:25 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     When google remember your devices you do not need to use anymore 2
> factor
>     authentication. It's failed cause when it ask me to input google code
> from
>     message send on the number attached to account - I wasn't able so it
> failed
>     after some time of waiting.
>
>     czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 08:21 Alex Harui <[email protected]>
> napisał(a):
>
>     > I just logged in without needing my phone.  I also got a notice that
> they
>     > saw a failed login attempt from your location.  Are you sure you
> used the
>     > right password?  The email password is not the same as Jenkins and
> RDP.  It
>     > is in private@ in January of 2020.
>     >
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 4/22/20, 10:39 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Email has 2 Factor authentication on, so I cannot login to it
> unless
>     >     someone with added number allows me ;)
>     >
>     >     czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 07:13 Alex Harui <[email protected]>
>     > napisał(a):
>     >
>     >     > I hope I posted the Gmail credentials on private@, so you can
> login
>     > and
>     >     > look there.  But also, the email won't make it to the list.
>     >     >
>     >     > -Alex
>     >     >
>     >     > On 4/22/20, 9:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> [email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I know that
>     > Jenkins got
>     >     >     rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console
> interface
>     > somehow?
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui
>     > <[email protected]>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     > Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra would
> have
>     >     > suggested that
>     >     >     > as well.  You are welcome to try it maybe on Royale-asjs
> since
>     > it is
>     >     >     > failing a lot right now.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     > [email protected]>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Alex,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not to dev
> but to
>     >     > commits or
>     >     >     > other
>     >     >     >     email which we have available - This is the solution.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     If I'm new to the list and subscribing here - seeing
> tons
>     > of
>     >     > weird
>     >     >     > emails
>     >     >     >     instead of emails about concrete subject - I would
>     > unsubscribe in
>     >     >     > about 1
>     >     >     >     day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a filter
> on my
>     > inbox,
>     >     > cause
>     >     >     > I
>     >     >     >     have for example 100 filters already. If I look into
> the
>     > archive
>     >     > I
>     >     >     > really
>     >     >     >     cannot read it, cause mailing list is obfuscated by
> stuff
>     > which
>     >     > uses
>     >     >     > by PMC
>     >     >     >     and committers - If you are PMC or committer and
> care about
>     >     > stuff you
>     >     >     > will
>     >     >     >     subscribe for another list.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     Piotr
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui
>     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     > napisał(a):
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to finish
> so
>     > have
>     >     > some time
>     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     > think about this more.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > My understanding is that we would need to send
> from an
>     > a.o
>     >     > email
>     >     >     > address
>     >     >     >     > to have it end up on commits@.  I don't know how
> to do
>     > that
>     >     > on a
>     >     >     > shared
>     >     >     >     > machine.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is before
>     > looking for
>     >     >     >     > solutions.  To me, the problem seems mostly
> unsolvable.
>     > As a
>     >     > PMC
>     >     >     > member
>     >     >     >     > you are supposed to be watching the commits, and
> as a
>     >     > committer, you
>     >     >     > need
>     >     >     >     > to know if you broke the build, and as a community
>     > member, you
>     >     >     > should help
>     >     >     >     > fix the build even if you didn't break it.  Moving
> CI
>     > emails
>     >     > out of
>     >     >     > your
>     >     >     >     > inbox via another list or a filter certainly will
> save
>     > you
>     >     > time, but
>     >     >     >     > doesn't seem fair to others.  Because if you aren't
>     > doing your
>     >     > share
>     >     >     > of
>     >     >     >     > commit reviews, or if you don't see right away
> that you
>     > might
>     >     > have
>     >     >     > broken
>     >     >     >     > the build then others have more work to do or
> can't get
>     > their
>     >     > work
>     >     >     > done.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > And  if we were a busier project, we might have
> rules on
>     >     > whether you
>     >     >     > can
>     >     >     >     > commit while the build is broken or not so as not
> to
>     > make it
>     >     > harder
>     >     >     > for the
>     >     >     >     > person trying to fix the build to fix it.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that you
> don't
>     > really
>     >     > need
>     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     > read.  How can anyone know which ones to read and
> which
>     > ones
>     >     > can be
>     >     >     >     > skipped?  And what tools can be used to make that
>     > happen?  Are
>     >     > there
>     >     >     > email
>     >     >     >     > tools that can tell if someone is working on a
> broken
>     > build?
>     >     > Can
>     >     >     > Jenkins
>     >     >     >     > tell us more in each failure message so you can
> filter
>     > out a
>     >     > series
>     >     >     > of
>     >     >     >     > broken build emails?  Maybe that's what we should
> be
>     > figuring
>     >     > out.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     >     > [email protected]>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     It's end up with using Dev, so I would like to
> get
>     > back to
>     >     > idea
>     >     >     > of
>     >     >     >     > having
>     >     >     >     >     either separate mailing list or sending that to
>     >     >     > [email protected] -
>     >     >     >     > Your
>     >     >     >     >     last comments indicates that email was still
>     > rejected - Is
>     >     > it
>     >     >     > still the
>     >     >     >     >     case ?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui
>     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >     > napisał(a):
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > I already asked.  See: INFRA-15722
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     >     >     > [email protected]>
>     >     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     To me argument of having info that server
>     > failed vs
>     >     > have
>     >     >     > cleaned
>     >     >     >     > inbox
>     >     >     >     >     >     finally - I'm choosing to have inbox
> cleaned.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     If Apache rejected email from Jenkins on
>     > commits@ I
>     >     > can
>     >     >     > ask
>     >     >     >     > infra
>     >     >     >     >     > what can
>     >     >     >     >     >     be done.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex Harui
>     >     >     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     > I've been unable to get the CI server
> to
>     > send to
>     >     > commits@
>     >     >     > .
>     >     >     >     > Apache
>     >     >     >     >     > blocks
>     >     >     >     >     >     > it.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     > Maybe issues@, but these aren't about
>     > issues.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     > IMO, the point of these Jenkins emails
> is so
>     > that
>     >     > all
>     >     >     >     > committers
>     >     >     >     >     > know the
>     >     >     >     >     >     > current state of the builds and help
> fix
>     > issues
>     >     > when
>     >     >     >     > possible.  My
>     >     >     >     >     > concern
>     >     >     >     >     >     > is that when committers start
> filtering CI
>     > emails
>     >     > they
>     >     >     > will
>     >     >     >     > miss
>     >     >     >     >     > when one
>     >     >     >     >     >     > of their commits breaks the build.
> So, the
>     > only
>     >     > reason
>     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     > split CI
>     >     >     >     >     > emails
>     >     >     >     >     >     > off this list is to reduce traffic to
> the
>     >     > non-committers.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash
> Muppirala" <
>     >     >     >     > [email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     We already have issues@ and
> commits@.
>     > Can we
>     >     >     > redirect the
>     >     >     >     >     > emails to
>     >     >     >     >     >     > one of
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     the lists?
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54 AM
> Alex
>     > Harui
>     >     >     >     >     > <[email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > IMO, if we do create a new list,
> all
>     >     > committers
>     >     >     > must be
>     >     >     >     >     > subscribed.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr
> Zarzycki" <
>     >     >     >     >     > [email protected]>
>     >     >     >     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Hi Guys,
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     In the last year or so all
>     > notifications
>     >     > from
>     >     >     > Jenkins
>     >     >     >     >     > build are
>     >     >     >     >     >     > going
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     development mailing list. It
>     > becomes very
>     >     >     > messy I see
>     >     >     >     >     > every day
>     >     >     >     >     >     > 40-50
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     emails where 80% of that is
>     > notification
>     >     > from
>     >     >     >     > Jenkins.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     I would like to propose
> create
>     > separate
>     >     >     > mailing list
>     >     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     >     > have such
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     notifications there.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Is it possible?
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Please share your thoughts
> on that
>     >     > subject.
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     --
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
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>     >     >     >     >     >
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