If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I know that Jenkins got
rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console interface somehow?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:

> Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra would have suggested that
> as well.  You are welcome to try it maybe on Royale-asjs since it is
> failing a lot right now.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Alex,
>
>     Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not to dev but to commits or
> other
>     email which we have available - This is the solution.
>
>     If I'm new to the list and subscribing here - seeing tons of weird
> emails
>     instead of emails about concrete subject - I would unsubscribe in
> about 1
>     day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a filter on my inbox, cause
> I
>     have for example 100 filters already. If I look into the archive I
> really
>     cannot read it, cause mailing list is obfuscated by stuff which uses
> by PMC
>     and committers - If you are PMC or committer and care about stuff you
> will
>     subscribe for another list.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Piotr
>
>     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
> napisał(a):
>
>     > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to finish so have some time
> to
>     > think about this more.
>     >
>     > My understanding is that we would need to send from an a.o email
> address
>     > to have it end up on commits@.  I don't know how to do that on a
> shared
>     > machine.
>     >
>     > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is before looking for
>     > solutions.  To me, the problem seems mostly unsolvable.  As a PMC
> member
>     > you are supposed to be watching the commits, and as a committer, you
> need
>     > to know if you broke the build, and as a community member, you
> should help
>     > fix the build even if you didn't break it.  Moving CI emails out of
> your
>     > inbox via another list or a filter certainly will save you time, but
>     > doesn't seem fair to others.  Because if you aren't doing your share
> of
>     > commit reviews, or if you don't see right away that you might have
> broken
>     > the build then others have more work to do or can't get their work
> done.
>     >
>     > And  if we were a busier project, we might have rules on whether you
> can
>     > commit while the build is broken or not so as not to make it harder
> for the
>     > person trying to fix the build to fix it.
>     >
>     > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that you don't really need
> to
>     > read.  How can anyone know which ones to read and which ones can be
>     > skipped?  And what tools can be used to make that happen?  Are there
> email
>     > tools that can tell if someone is working on a broken build?  Can
> Jenkins
>     > tell us more in each failure message so you can filter out a series
> of
>     > broken build emails?  Maybe that's what we should be figuring out.
>     >
>     > My 2 cents,
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     It's end up with using Dev, so I would like to get back to idea
> of
>     > having
>     >     either separate mailing list or sending that to
> commits@royale.a.o -
>     > Your
>     >     last comments indicates that email was still rejected - Is it
> still the
>     >     case ?
>     >
>     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     > napisał(a):
>     >
>     >     > I already asked.  See: INFRA-15722
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     To me argument of having info that server failed vs have
> cleaned
>     > inbox
>     >     >     finally - I'm choosing to have inbox cleaned.
>     >     >
>     >     >     If Apache rejected email from Jenkins on commits@ I can
> ask
>     > infra
>     >     > what can
>     >     >     be done.
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex Harui
>     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     > I've been unable to get the CI server to send to commits@
> .
>     > Apache
>     >     > blocks
>     >     >     > it.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Maybe issues@, but these aren't about issues.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > IMO, the point of these Jenkins emails is so that all
>     > committers
>     >     > know the
>     >     >     > current state of the builds and help fix issues when
>     > possible.  My
>     >     > concern
>     >     >     > is that when committers start filtering CI emails they
> will
>     > miss
>     >     > when one
>     >     >     > of their commits breaks the build.  So, the only reason
> to
>     > split CI
>     >     > emails
>     >     >     > off this list is to reduce traffic to the non-committers.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>     > bigosma...@gmail.com>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     We already have issues@ and commits@.  Can we
> redirect the
>     >     > emails to
>     >     >     > one of
>     >     >     >     the lists?
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54 AM Alex Harui
>     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     >     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > IMO, if we do create a new list, all committers
> must be
>     >     > subscribed.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     >     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Hi Guys,
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     In the last year or so all notifications from
> Jenkins
>     >     > build are
>     >     >     > going
>     >     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     >     development mailing list. It becomes very
> messy I see
>     >     > every day
>     >     >     > 40-50
>     >     >     >     >     emails where 80% of that is notification from
>     > Jenkins.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     I would like to propose create separate
> mailing list
>     > to
>     >     > have such
>     >     >     >     >     notifications there.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Is it possible?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Please share your thoughts on that subject.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     --
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
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