I think the path Gert, Guillaume anad James suggested to make Camel endpoints well behaved citizens in SMX is the right thing to do. I think the lifecycle issue is solvable in camel. Let's keep this discussion going.
Hadrian

On Feb 3, 2009, at 8:18 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Guys,

I have begun the servicemix-ldap component :
http://svn.nanthrax.net/servicemix-ldap/trunk/

My purpose is to compare with the Camel LDAP component and investigate how it's possible to use a common part.
So, it's a kind of prototype to
1/ provide a LDAP component :)
2/ investigate and test how Camel and SMX components can be shared

Regards
JB

PS : for now, I have put the source code on my svn repository. I will commit on the ASF one as soons as possible.

On Monday 02 February 2009 - 19:25, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
This should not be too complicated to implement if needed.

The idea in JBI is that service assemblies (aka routes un camel) have
three real states: started, stopped and shutdown.
Started means that all endpoints are fully operational.  Shutdown
means that no exchanges will be processed.  The stopped state is the
interesting one: consumer endpoints will not accept any new requests
from the outside world but will still process existing requests. Other
provider endpoints fully process requets.  The goal is to ensure an
orderly shut down of assemblies and not loose any messages.  For
example a jms consumer will stop consuming jms messages from the
queue, but will still enqueue responses when they come back from the
route.

If we are to support that in camel, we should do it in a way that we
can easily control the lifecycle of mixed applications (if you mix
servicemix endpoints and camel routes).

On 02/02/2009, James Strachan <[email protected]> wrote:
2009/2/2 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
It might be doable. I guess the way to do that would be to define the JBI endpoint as a wrapper to a camel endpoint. When the JBI endpoint would be initialized / started, a camel route would be created for it. Not sure how well camel endpoints can handle the JBI lifecycle where
new requests are not accepted, but existing exchanges are still
processed until completion (for a consumer endpoint).

Could you give an example of a well behaving JBI endpoint that does
this? I wonder how hard this would be to add; either at the
Camel-Endpoint-As-JBI-Endpoint wrapper or inside Camel etc

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