I am also torn into the possibilities.Putting Karaf under felix will keep e.g. equinox advocates away (thats why Alex refer's to the devil :) ?) Also, any possible shortcoming (technical or political) of felix will directly affect Karaf as a higher level "enterprisy" solution.
On the other hand, the one-shop stop for osgi sounds nice and convinient. But then you never stop and at best eat up ops4j pax tools as well next time. But to be honest, i never looked at smx4 before it was brought to the felix list. And Karaf has to "earn" the brand that felix already has. No real "best" solution at this point i guess. Maybe someone should (from smx4) should try to formulate a positioning statement. Then things may become more clear probably. cheers, Toni On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Alex Karasulu <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM, James Strachan <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > 2009/4/3 Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]>: > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> During ApacheCon last week, there has been some discussions around > > >> moving ServiceMix Kernel as a subproject of Felix. > > >> ServiceMix Kernel is a packaged distribution of Felix designed for > > >> server side applications (see http://servicemix.apache.org/kernel/for > > >> more informations). > > >> > > >> I think this would be beneficial for this project as it would enable > > >> to build a much bigger community around it, increase the visibility > > >> and the awareness around it. Of course, it would need a new name, but > > >> that's another problem. > > >> Another area that could be included in this move is the ServiceMix > > >> specs (OSGi enhanced versions of Java EE specifications from Geronimo) > > >> and ServiceMix bundles (we've released a bunch of bundles already, see > > >> http://servicemix.apache.org/smx4/bundles-repository.html). > > > > > > Guys, > > > considering how much attention this have received, and positive > > > comments all around (i'll add mine now), why move it to Felix. > > > > I think the aim was to build up the Karaf community; unify and align > > with more of Felix and hopefully get folks from outside of ServiceMIx > > and Felix to contribute and then when the community has grown we can > > go TLP later on if required. > > > > Yep it brings Karaf developers closer to Felix and Felix developers closer > to Karaf. Furthermore it makes Felix a one stop shop for OSGi. I don't > think we have the fear of ballooning up to a Jakarta either. I think > Niclas, you, understand that so as your old friend I'm going to think this > is one of your devil's advocate positions :-). > > Alex > -- Toni Menzel Software Developer Professional Profile: http://www.osgify.com [email protected] http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software.
