https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5922





--- Comment #17 from Craig Shaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  2008-06-18 15:15:29 PST 
---
(In reply to comment #12)
...
> I should point out -- Craig mailed me off-list over the past few days, and
> we had some correspondence about this bug; I encouraged him to re-post our
> chat here in public, but I guess he didn't want to ;)
> As his mail notes, the <craig /at/ progroup.com> address had no prior customer
> relationship with eFax.com.  Even if _he_ sent someone a mail via an efax
> address in 2004, that's not exactly opting in to receive marketing mail from
> third parties.  Worse than that, the address in question is a different
> address; someone at eFax correlated his identity 4 years down the line with a
> totally different, unrelated, scraped address.  This appears to be e-pending
> [1], and I don't think we should be whitelisting senders that do this, since 
> it
> is a pretty scummy practice.
>     [1]: http://taint.org/2006/02/20/112342a.html
> So I would be +1 for removing efax.com from the default whitelist due to this,
> unless someone from efax can give us details explaining the situation.

Hmmmm, let me fill you in on some details. This is not e-pending. The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a live address. It is just not used any more. I have 3
domains: progroup.com, myittybitty.com, and myitsybitsy.com. They should all
resolve to 64.142.77.168. Some people have made me offers on the progroup.com
domain and I am phasing it out. In fact, there should not be any legitimate use
of the progroup.com address. I do get some good contacts from recruiters that
have gotten the progroup address from an old resume database.

I have worked on anti spam projects at Microsoft and Cisco.
(http://www.myittybitty.com/resume20070823.htm)
Before that I did contract programming work in SiliVali for over 10 years. 

I am not a spam expert, but I know enough to be dangerous. I keep ALL of my
email. I have email going back to 1993 when I was connected to the net via
uucp. I hate spam. So when I get lots of it I open up the messages to find out
why it was not caught.

They did not get my address from previous contact. Someone subscribed me to the
efax account using an old spammers list. See bug 5921. 

Thanks for all the follow up and going the distance on this one. :)


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