On Tuesday 17 June 2008 19:44, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > Michael Peddemors wrote, On 18/6/08 2:28 PM: > > On Tuesday 17 June 2008 18:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > >>> it still seems more likely that eFax.com is not spamming, but sends > >>> what some people think is spam, > > > > I chuckle at this :) If they think it is Spam, it is spam for all intents > > and purposes if you are the email administrator or ISP trying to keep > > your cusomter, or trying to stop them from switching to your competitor.. > > If you have to subscribe to get it, confirm your email address with > double opt-in, agree to a terms of service that explicitly says that you > agree that the cost of the service you are getting is receiving > advertising email, each email contains instructions on how to > unsubscribe by following a URL or sending an email, and the company > really does stop sending the mail on receiving an unsubcribe request, > then there is no reason for SpamAssassin to waste its time labeling that > mail as spam.
You can tell I am working late when I double post.. and you have to understand that for my company it would be better if SA didnt' stop email marketing.. (PS, ISP operators, raise your hands.. how many have had to resort to blocking an IP from a company that claimed to do the above?) but.. so... say I had a company, this hypothetical company that derives it's income from email advertising.. and uses the daily horoscope as a driver to get people to sign up.. o They subscribe.. o I send an email 'confirming their email is correct' click here to confirm o I include a link to terms of service that says the customer agrees to recieve email (which noone reads of course) o I include a URL to unsubscribe, (of course it only unsubscribes in a difficult, or very specific way. o I don't make a big thing of the line in the terms of service that say I can sell the address, or that I have 20 different companies that might also use the same database once I get them. o I do honour any requests to stop a particular advertising blitz.. (I change them every 2 weeks anyways) Does this entitle me to be exempt from SA? You are going to get a lot of requests pretty quick.. :) Okay, that sounds like an opinion.. but you get my drift.. No way that SA can possibly audit this type of behavior.. But if SA is going to say that certain 'behaviors' are not going to be treated as spam.... how did you put it.. "waste its time labeling that mail as spam." then I think it is appropriate to put a policy in effect, so noone can complain about what they belief is 'spam' from these companies not being stopped.. Then they can look to other tools ;) But enough comments from both sides of the fence have been on this list lately to consider the policy idea.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Peddemors - President/CEO - LinuxMagic Products, Services, Support and Development Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca "LinuxMagic" is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 604-589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company.
