https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5922





--- Comment #13 from Sidney Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  2008-06-18 05:41:13 
PST ---
(in reply to comment #12)

I have no inclination to defend a spammer, nor to defend eFax as a company. But
this situation does not make sense to me as evidence that eFax is spamming.

We have had efax.com on the default whitelist and have not received the number
of complaints that we would have if they were actually signing up people
without permission. My own quite negative past experience as an eFax-Free
customer is that since J2 acquired eFax they have tried to do everything
possible to discourage people from maintaining eFax-Free accounts, just the
opposite of falsely signing them up.

Looking more closely at "The one time I used efax was in 2004 when pay-pro.com
required me to email them through their efax service" I think that is a red
herring. Pay-pro is a service that on their web site asks customers to send
them certain information either by fax or by emailing a scanned image to the
address efax at pay-pro dot com. That is not at all the same as providing an
email address to eFax. I interpret it as Pay-pro setting up their eFax account
so that they receive their faxes at that email address and telling people to
either fax to their eFax account phone number or email scanned images directly
to the email address that those faxes are forwarded to. If that is the case,
eFax would never see that email.

"I would be +1 for removing efax.com from the default whitelist due to this,
unless someone from efax can give us details explaining the situation"

I don't see how that explanation can be had from eFax unless Craig is willing
to contact them using his <craig /at/ progroup.com> address or through some
login on that efax account to ask the for the record of the initial
subscription. I would hope that eFax would not provide that kind of information
about Craig to us if we asked for it.


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