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--- Comment #18 from João Gouveia <[email protected]> 2011-11-30 
17:36:54 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #14)
> > Very easily by pointing you to the uproar and lengthy discussion the last 
> > (and
> > first) time a new DNSBL has been pushed with a rule update because it was 
> > added
> > to the sandboxes.
> 
> That uproar was because that blacklist (spam eating monkey) was automatically
> detecting "abuse" and causing many false positives.  (bug 6220)
> 
> > (In reply to comment #13)
> > > I believe we can just encapsulate it in a version check.
> 
> An interesting suggestion.
> 
> > Would that not bias the re-scoring, and thus negatively impact 3.3?
> 
> And an excellent question.  
> 
> What do you folks think about polling the users list about adding a new DNSBL
> to existing 3.3 releases?  Should I just post, asking?
> 
> What's the worst that will happen if these rules are enabled for existing 
> 3.3.*
> releases?  João, can you confirm that mailspike will not cause false positives
> as a result of detecting high amounts of traffic?  So worst case, people get 
> no
> DNS response, and the score is not affected?  Also, worst case, we revert the
> addition a day later.  

Yes, I can confirm that.
We have also deployed a DNSBL mirror network, which is on standby and ready to
kick in, in case we start getting too much traffic.

> 
> (All, of course, depending on getting rule updates happening again, bug 6702.)

(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #14)
> > Very easily by pointing you to the uproar and lengthy discussion the last 
> > (and
> > first) time a new DNSBL has been pushed with a rule update because it was 
> > added
> > to the sandboxes.
> 
> That uproar was because that blacklist (spam eating monkey) was automatically
> detecting "abuse" and causing many false positives.  (bug 6220)
> 
> > (In reply to comment #13)
> > > I believe we can just encapsulate it in a version check.
> 
> An interesting suggestion.
> 
> > Would that not bias the re-scoring, and thus negatively impact 3.3?
> 
> And an excellent question.  
> 
> What do you folks think about polling the users list about adding a new DNSBL
> to existing 3.3 releases?  Should I just post, asking?
> 
> What's the worst that will happen if these rules are enabled for existing 
> 3.3.*
> releases?  João, can you confirm that mailspike will not cause false positives
> as a result of detecting high amounts of traffic?  So worst case, people get 
> no
> DNS response, and the score is not affected?  Also, worst case, we revert the
> addition a day later.  

Yes, I can confirm that.
We have also deployed a DNSBL mirror network, which is on standby and ready to
kick in, in case we start getting too much traffic.

> (All, of course, depending on getting rule updates happening again, bug 6702.)

(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #14)
> > Very easily by pointing you to the uproar and lengthy discussion the last 
> > (and
> > first) time a new DNSBL has been pushed with a rule update because it was 
> > added
> > to the sandboxes.
> 
> That uproar was because that blacklist (spam eating monkey) was automatically
> detecting "abuse" and causing many false positives.  (bug 6220)
> 
> > (In reply to comment #13)
> > > I believe we can just encapsulate it in a version check.
> 
> An interesting suggestion.
> 
> > Would that not bias the re-scoring, and thus negatively impact 3.3?
> 
> And an excellent question.  
> 
> What do you folks think about polling the users list about adding a new DNSBL
> to existing 3.3 releases?  Should I just post, asking?
> 
> What's the worst that will happen if these rules are enabled for existing 
> 3.3.*
> releases?  João, can you confirm that mailspike will not cause false positives
> as a result of detecting high amounts of traffic?  So worst case, people get 
> no
> DNS response, and the score is not affected?  Also, worst case, we revert the
> addition a day later.

Yes, I can confirm that.
We have also deployed a DNSBL mirror network, which is on standby and ready to
kick in, in case we start getting too much traffic.

> 
> (All, of course, depending on getting rule updates happening again, bug 6702.)

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