https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6400

--- Comment #23 from Darxus <[email protected]> 2011-12-05 21:26:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> Again, I believe there was consensus about generally adding new DNSBLs with
> major/minor version updates only, *and* clearly communicating this in the

> new DNSBLs. Maybe you just trust my memory on that?

I don't.  I don't think you're lying, I just don't see a reason to assume you
remember it as I would interpret it.

> Hey, I welcome anyone to step up and tell me consensus has been otherwise.

>From what I saw, consensus just said that people shouldn't add a bunch of new
DNSBLs to masscheck without discussing it.  And there was no consensus that new
DNSBLs could only be added on major/minor releases.

> What's unsubstantiated is your claim that I and my quote would have been the
> reason for not yet including Mailspike. There are NO votes by PMC members or
> committers. That's what matters and changes the game, not a single post on a
> mailing list.

Kevin's comment 7 should count as a +1.  And I worry that others aren't voting
because they believe there was previous consensus to only add DNSBLs at
releases, which I question.

> While you "don't think anybody will mind the increased network load", I do 
> know
> it for a fact. Yes, there *are* systems out there, heavily tweaked for
> throughput with assorted DNSBLs, plugins and rules disabled.

Good.  Are there any of those people who don't read dev@, users@, announce@, or
proofread sa-updates before applying them?  
Do any of these systems you know of stand any actual risk of inadvertently
adding the MSPIKE rules via sa-update?
Would any of them be any more than slightly inconvenienced for a day?

> Thus the need for clearly communicating any such changes.

I agree with that.  I think being unwilling to make the change to existing
releases takes it too far.

> > Somewhat related, spamassassin needs an announcement list, for announcing
> > changes like this, and releases. (bug 6714)
> 
> Oh, yeah, *that* was a fun bug.

Yeah, sorry.  So posting to announce@ should be ample communication, right?

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