It's not a commit war.  I rescind my request to go away from rtc.  I will
work to see what we can escalate on the known issues.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 19:04 Sidney Markowitz <sid...@sidney.com> wrote:

> This is wrong, from the point of view of proper process.
>
> I'm glad you are accepting "fault", Kevin, "for not being more
> communicative", but the process is that we have issues that are opened
> in Bugzilla, work on them is coordinated in the comments of those
> issues, issues that we decide to include in the 4.0 release are marked
> with a "4.0" milestone, issues that we decide can be done after the 4.0
> release are assigned a "Future" milestone, and we know when we are ready
> to release when all issues with a 4.0 milestone have been closed.
>
> I don't care about being or nor being "communicative". How can anyone on
> the team be working on an issue and allow the issue to be closed without
> ever making a comment in Bugzilla and especially without reopening the
> issue when they see it closed?
>
> This is not even a discussion that should be ongoing in this mailing
> list, other than perhaps a single email saying "Whoops, too soon for a
> release candidate, I have (re-)opened bug(s) #X and #Y that need more
> work, look at them for details."
>
> Please properly put whatever technical reasons we have to not proceed
> with the release in the correct Bugzilla issues.
>
> This has only reinforced the decision to go R-T-C: I certainly don't
> want to see this turn into a commit war between everything that Henrik
> has done in the past days vs an entire independent set of patches
> completed in the dark in parallel. We can hash it out in Bugzilla
> comments where it belongs.
>
>   Sidney
>
>
> Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 1/05/22 4:39 am:
> > The switch to making sure that the patches were without any issues led to
> > significant delays.
> >
> > To my knowledge there is nobody testing the code in any live production
> > systems. I expect we will find bugs because of that.
> >
> > As I said the fault is mine for not being more communicative. But yes
> right
> > now we have patches doing the same things in different ways with
> different
> > issues and they need to be reconciled.
> >
> > Appreciate all your help on them. We'll get it done and hopefully I'm
> wrong
> > with the bugs and gaps being minimal.
> >
> > Regards,. KAM
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 12:16 Henrik K <h...@hege.li> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Why are you expecting massive issues?  I completed all the WLBL work in
> few
> >> days in meticulous detail, there's extensive tests and many people
> tested
> >> it.  I think there was about one alias that was missing which Giovanni
> >> noticed (cheers).
> >>
> >> I would have rather not participated, but as you went silent for year or
> >> two, why would anyone expect there's some pending diffs.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:03:55PM -0400, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >>> Well it was out fault for working on diffs and not giving visibility.
> >> Others
> >>> then did work on some of the same bugs in a new branch.
> >>>
> >>> We are reconciling it against the same work others did on the WLBL, for
> >>> example.  And I expect with RC1 to find some pretty massive issues
> there
> >> since
> >>> I don't think anybody is using all the code there.
> >>>
> >>> We also found some issues with sigonly in the original version and in
> >> other
> >>> patches too.
> >>>
> >>> So we're working on bugs and reconciliation between two different
> >> people's code
> >>> fixing the same bugs. Not easy.
> >>>
> >>> Hope that clears things up and why I don't think RTC is useful for RC1
> >> because
> >>> I don't think it has any chance of becoming a full release.
> >>>
> >>> Regards, KAM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 10:58 Henrik K <[1]h...@hege.li> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      Wtf?  If you or someone have "giant diffs" or work being done,
> then
> >> post
> >>>      them on the appropriate bugs, reopening if necessary.  I don't
> >> understand
> >>>      why even waste time posting something vague like this.
> >>>
> >>>      On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 09:50:15AM -0400, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >>>      > Should we delay RTC? I know there are some bugs being worked on
> in
> >> some
> >>>      of the
> >>>      > bugs that have been closed. I also know there's some patches
> that
> >>>      Giovanni
> >>>      > might or might not have gotten to for the WLBL. We had a giant
> >> diff for
> >>>      that
> >>>      > was collided.
> >>>      >
> >>>      > On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 05:55 Axb <[1][2]axb.li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>      >
> >>>      >     Doh! Henrik already did it.
> >>>      >     Thanks!
> >>>      >
> >>>      >     On 4/30/22 11:52, Axb wrote:
> >>>      >     > Should we update [2][3]20_aux_tlds.cf for this relesase?
> >>>      >     >
> >>>      >     > I can't do it at the moment - any taker?
> >>>      >     >
> >>>      >     > On 4/30/22 11:27, Sidney Markowitz wrote:
> >>>      >     >> It's time for a code freeze in preparation for the
> release
> >> of
> >>>      4.0.0
> >>>      >     >> release candidates.
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >> Please do not commit anything to trunk other than the
> usual
> >>>      ongoing
> >>>      >     >> rules stuff that finds its way into the rule update
> process.
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >> Any new bug fixes that need to be committed for 4.0.0
> >> should be
> >>>      >     >> associated with a bug opened with a 4.0 milestone and get
> >> reviewed
> >>>      >     >> before committed.
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >> Please hold off on committing for any issue that is not
> >> marked as
> >>>      4.0
> >>>      >     >> milestone.
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >> Thanks,
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >>   Sidney
> >>>      >     >>
> >>>      >     >
> >>>      >
> >>>      >
> >>>      >
> >>>      > References:
> >>>      >
> >>>      > [1] mailto:[4]axb.li...@gmail.com
> >>>      > [2] [5]http://20_aux_tlds.cf/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> References:
> >>>
> >>> [1] mailto:h...@hege.li
> >>> [2] mailto:axb.li...@gmail.com
> >>> [3] http://20_aux_tlds.cf/
> >>> [4] mailto:axb.li...@gmail.com
> >>> [5] http://20_aux_tlds.cf/
> >>
> >
>
>

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