I'm all for keeping this moving and not getting too far into the details
(like naming), but I think the substantial details should be clarified
first since they are in the proposal that's being voted on.

I would prefer moving the write side to a separate SPIP, too, since there
isn't much detail in the proposal and I think we should be more deliberate
with things like schema evolution.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> I think for a SPIP, we should not worry too much about details, as we can
> discuss them during PR review after the vote pass.
>
> I think we should focus more on the overall design, like James did. The
> interface mix-in vs plan push down discussion was great, hope we can get a
> consensus on this topic soon. The current proposal is, we keep the
> interface mix-in framework, and add an unstable plan push down trait.
>
> For details like interface names, sort push down vs sort propagate, etc.,
> I think they should not block the vote, as they can be updated/improved
> within the current interface mix-in framework.
>
> About separating read/write proposals, we should definitely send
> individual PRs for read/write when developing data source v2. I'm also OK
> with voting on the read side first. The write side is way simpler than the
> read side, I think it's more important to get agreement on the read side
> first.
>
> BTW, I do appreciate your feedbacks/comments on the prototype, let's keep
> the discussion there. In the meanwhile, let's have more discussion on the
> overall framework, and drive this project together.
>
> Wenchen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Ryan Blue <rb...@netflix.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but the high-level proposal consists of:
>> Goals, Non-Goals, and Proposed API. What is there to discuss other than the
>> details of the API that's being proposed? I think the goals make sense, but
>> goals alone aren't enough to approve a SPIP.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So we seem to be getting into a cycle of discussing more about the
>>> details of APIs than the high level proposal. The details of APIs are
>>> important to debate, but those belong more in code reviews.
>>>
>>> One other important thing is that we should avoid API design by
>>> committee. While it is extremely useful to get feedback, understand the use
>>> cases, we cannot do API design by incorporating verbatim the union of
>>> everybody's feedback. API design is largely a tradeoff game. The most
>>> expressive API would also be harder to use, or sacrifice backward/forward
>>> compatibility. It is as important to decide what to exclude as what to
>>> include.
>>>
>>> Unlike the v1 API, the way Wenchen's high level V2 framework is proposed
>>> makes it very easy to add new features (e.g. clustering properties) in the
>>> future without breaking any APIs. I'd rather us shipping something useful
>>> that might not be the most comprehensive set, than debating about every
>>> single feature we should add and then creating something super complicated
>>> that has unclear value.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Ryan Blue <rb...@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> -1 (non-binding)
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it takes a VOTE thread to get people to actually read and
>>>> comment, so thanks for starting this one… but there’s still discussion
>>>> happening on the prototype API, which it hasn’t been updated. I’d like to
>>>> see the proposal shaped by the ongoing discussion so that we have a better,
>>>> more concrete plan. I think that’s going to produces a better SPIP.
>>>>
>>>> The second reason for -1 is that I think the read- and write-side
>>>> proposals should be separated. The PR
>>>> <https://github.com/cloud-fan/spark/pull/10> currently has “write
>>>> path” listed as a TODO item and most of the discussion I’ve seen is on the
>>>> read side. I think it would be better to separate the read and write APIs
>>>> so we can focus on them individually.
>>>>
>>>> An example of why we should focus on the write path separately is that
>>>> the proposal says this:
>>>>
>>>> Ideally partitioning/bucketing concept should not be exposed in the
>>>> Data Source API V2, because they are just techniques for data skipping and
>>>> pre-partitioning. However, these 2 concepts are already widely used in
>>>> Spark, e.g. DataFrameWriter.partitionBy and DDL syntax like ADD PARTITION.
>>>> To be consistent, we need to add partitioning/bucketing to Data Source V2 .
>>>> . .
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, the some APIs mix DDL and DML operations. I’d like to
>>>> consider ways to fix that problem instead of carrying the problem forward
>>>> to Data Source V2. We can solve this by adding a high-level API for DDL and
>>>> a better write/insert API that works well with it. Clearly, that discussion
>>>> is independent of the read path, which is why I think separating the two
>>>> proposals would be a win.
>>>>
>>>> rb
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That might be good to do, but seems like orthogonal to this effort
>>>>> itself. It would be a completely different interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK I agree with it, how about we add a new interface to push down the
>>>>>> query plan, based on the current framework? We can mark the
>>>>>> query-plan-push-down interface as unstable, to save the effort of 
>>>>>> designing
>>>>>> a stable representation of query plan and maintaining forward 
>>>>>> compatibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM, James Baker <j.ba...@outlook.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll just focus on the one-by-one thing for now - it's the thing
>>>>>>> that blocks me the most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the place where we're most confused here is on the cost of
>>>>>>> determining whether I can push down a filter. For me, in order to work 
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> whether I can push down a filter or satisfy a sort, I might have to read
>>>>>>> plenty of data. That said, it's worth me doing this because I can use 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> information to avoid reading >>that much data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you give me all the orderings, I will have to read that data many
>>>>>>> times (we stream it to avoid keeping it in memory).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's also a thing where our typical use cases have many filters
>>>>>>> (20+ is common). So, it's likely not going to work to pass us all the
>>>>>>> combinations. That said, if I can tell you a cost, I know what optimal
>>>>>>> looks like, why can't I just pick that myself?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The current design is friendly to simple datasources, but does not
>>>>>>> have the potential to support this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the main problem we have with datasources v1 is that it's
>>>>>>> essentially impossible to leverage a bunch of Spark features - I don't 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> to use bucketing or row batches or all the nice things that I really 
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to use to get decent performance. Provided I can leverage these in a
>>>>>>> moderately supported way which won't break in any given commit, I'll be
>>>>>>> pretty happy with anything that lets me opt out of the restrictions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My suggestion here is that if you make a mode which works well for
>>>>>>> complicated use cases, you end up being able to write simple mode in 
>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>> of it very easily. So we could actually provide two APIs, one that lets
>>>>>>> people who have more interesting datasources leverage the cool Spark
>>>>>>> features, and one that lets people who just want to implement basic
>>>>>>> features do that - I'd try to include some kind of layering here. I 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> probably sketch out something here if that'd be useful?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 18:59 Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback! I think your concerns are all valid, but
>>>>>>>> we need to make a tradeoff here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Explicitly here, what I'm looking for is a convenient mechanism
>>>>>>>> to accept a fully specified set of arguments
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem with this approach is: 1) if we wanna add more
>>>>>>>> arguments in the future, it's really hard to do without changing
>>>>>>>> the existing interface. 2) if a user wants to implement a very simple 
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> source, he has to look at all the arguments and understand them, which 
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> be a burden for him.
>>>>>>>> I don't have a solution to solve these 2 problems, comments are
>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > There are loads of cases like this - you can imagine someone
>>>>>>>> being able to push down a sort before a filter is applied, but not
>>>>>>>> afterwards. However, maybe the filter is so selective that it's better 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> push down the filter and not handle the sort. I don't get to make this
>>>>>>>> decision, Spark does (but doesn't have good enough information to do it
>>>>>>>> properly, whilst I do). I want to be able to choose the parts I push 
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> given knowledge of my datasource - as defined the APIs don't let me do
>>>>>>>> that, they're strictly more restrictive than the V1 APIs in this way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is true, the current framework applies push downs one by one,
>>>>>>>> incrementally. If a data source wanna go back to accept a sort push 
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> after it accepts a filter push down, it's impossible with the current 
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> source V2.
>>>>>>>> Fortunately, we have a solution for this problem. At Spark side,
>>>>>>>> actually we do have a fully specified set of arguments waiting to
>>>>>>>> be pushed down, but Spark doesn't know which is the best order to push 
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> into data source. Spark can try every combination and ask the data 
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>> to report a cost, then Spark can pick the best combination with the 
>>>>>>>> lowest
>>>>>>>> cost. This can also be implemented as a cost report interface, so that
>>>>>>>> advanced data source can implement it for optimal performance, and 
>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>> data source doesn't need to care about it and keep simple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The current design is very friendly to simple data source, and has
>>>>>>>> the potential to support complex data source, I prefer the current 
>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>> over the plan push down one. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 5:53 AM, James Baker <j.ba...@outlook.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, for sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the stable representation - agree that in the general case
>>>>>>>>> this is pretty intractable, it restricts the modifications that you 
>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>> in the future too much. That said, it shouldn't be as hard if you 
>>>>>>>>> restrict
>>>>>>>>> yourself to the parts of the plan which are supported by the 
>>>>>>>>> datasources V2
>>>>>>>>> API (which after all, need to be translateable properly into the 
>>>>>>>>> future to
>>>>>>>>> support the mixins proposed). This should have a pretty small scope in
>>>>>>>>> comparison. As long as the user can bail out of nodes they don't
>>>>>>>>> understand, they should be ok, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That said, what would also be fine for us is a place to plug into
>>>>>>>>> an unstable query plan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Explicitly here, what I'm looking for is a convenient mechanism to
>>>>>>>>> accept a fully specified set of arguments (of which I can choose to 
>>>>>>>>> ignore
>>>>>>>>> some), and return the information as to which of them I'm ignoring. 
>>>>>>>>> Taking
>>>>>>>>> a query plan of sorts is a way of doing this which IMO is intuitive 
>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>> user. It also provides a convenient location to plug in things like 
>>>>>>>>> stats.
>>>>>>>>> Not at all married to the idea of using a query plan here; it just 
>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the users who just want to be able to pump data into
>>>>>>>>> Spark, my understanding is that replacing isolated nodes in a query 
>>>>>>>>> plan is
>>>>>>>>> easy. That said, our goal here is to be able to push down as much as
>>>>>>>>> possible into the underlying datastore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To your second question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue is that if you build up pushdowns incrementally and not
>>>>>>>>> all at once, you end up having to reject pushdowns and filters that 
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> actually can do, which unnecessarily increases overheads.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, the dataset
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a b c
>>>>>>>>> 1 2 3
>>>>>>>>> 1 3 3
>>>>>>>>> 1 3 4
>>>>>>>>> 2 1 1
>>>>>>>>> 2 0 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can efficiently push down sort(b, c) if I have already applied the
>>>>>>>>> filter a = 1, but otherwise will force a sort in Spark. On the PR I 
>>>>>>>>> detail
>>>>>>>>> a case I see where I can push down two equality filters iff I am 
>>>>>>>>> given them
>>>>>>>>> at the same time, whilst not being able to one at a time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are loads of cases like this - you can imagine someone being
>>>>>>>>> able to push down a sort before a filter is applied, but not 
>>>>>>>>> afterwards.
>>>>>>>>> However, maybe the filter is so selective that it's better to push 
>>>>>>>>> down the
>>>>>>>>> filter and not handle the sort. I don't get to make this decision, 
>>>>>>>>> Spark
>>>>>>>>> does (but doesn't have good enough information to do it properly, 
>>>>>>>>> whilst I
>>>>>>>>> do). I want to be able to choose the parts I push down given 
>>>>>>>>> knowledge of
>>>>>>>>> my datasource - as defined the APIs don't let me do that, they're 
>>>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>>>> more restrictive than the V1 APIs in this way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The pattern of not considering things that can be done in bulk
>>>>>>>>> bites us in other ways. The retrieval methods end up being trickier to
>>>>>>>>> implement than is necessary because frequently a single operation 
>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>> the result of many of the getters, but the state is mutable, so you 
>>>>>>>>> end up
>>>>>>>>> with odd caches.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, the work I need to do to answer unhandledFilters in
>>>>>>>>> V1 is roughly the same as the work I need to do to buildScan, so I 
>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>> cache it. This means that I end up with code that looks like:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> public final class CachingFoo implements Foo {
>>>>>>>>>     private final Foo delegate;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     private List<Filter> currentFilters = emptyList();
>>>>>>>>>     private Supplier<Bar> barSupplier =
>>>>>>>>> newSupplier(currentFilters);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     public CachingFoo(Foo delegate) {
>>>>>>>>>         this.delegate = delegate;
>>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     private Supplier<Bar> newSupplier(List<Filter> filters) {
>>>>>>>>>         return Suppliers.memoize(() ->
>>>>>>>>> delegate.computeBar(filters));
>>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     @Override
>>>>>>>>>     public Bar computeBar(List<Filter> filters) {
>>>>>>>>>         if (!filters.equals(currentFilters)) {
>>>>>>>>>             currentFilters = filters;
>>>>>>>>>             barSupplier = newSupplier(filters);
>>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         return barSupplier.get();
>>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which caches the result required in unhandledFilters on the
>>>>>>>>> expectation that Spark will call buildScan afterwards and get to use 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> result..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This kind of cache becomes more prominent, but harder to deal with
>>>>>>>>> in the new APIs. As one example here, the state I will need in order 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> compute accurate column stats internally will likely be a subset of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> work required in order to get the read tasks, tell you if I can handle
>>>>>>>>> filters, etc, so I'll want to cache them for reuse. However, the 
>>>>>>>>> cached
>>>>>>>>> information needs to be appropriately invalidated when I add a new 
>>>>>>>>> filter
>>>>>>>>> or sort order or limit, and this makes implementing the APIs harder 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> more error-prone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing that'd be great is a defined contract of the order in
>>>>>>>>> which Spark calls the methods on your datasource (ideally this 
>>>>>>>>> contract
>>>>>>>>> could be implied by the way the Java class structure works, but 
>>>>>>>>> otherwise I
>>>>>>>>> can just throw).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 02:56 Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comment. I think you just pointed out a trade-off
>>>>>>>>>> between expressiveness and API simplicity, compatibility and 
>>>>>>>>>> evolvability.
>>>>>>>>>> For the max expressiveness, we'd want the ability to expose full 
>>>>>>>>>> query
>>>>>>>>>> plans, and let the data source decide which part of the query plan 
>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>> pushed down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The downside to that (full query plan push down) are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. It is extremely difficult to design a stable representation
>>>>>>>>>> for logical / physical plan. It is doable, but we'd be the first to 
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> it. I'm not sure of any mainstream databases being able to do that 
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> past. The design of that API itself, to make sure we have a good 
>>>>>>>>>> story for
>>>>>>>>>> backward and forward compatibility, would probably take months if not
>>>>>>>>>> years. It might still be good to do, or offer an experimental trait 
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> compatibility guarantee that uses the current Catalyst internal 
>>>>>>>>>> logical
>>>>>>>>>> plan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Most data source developers simply want a way to offer some
>>>>>>>>>> data, without any pushdown. Having to understand query plans is a 
>>>>>>>>>> burden
>>>>>>>>>> rather than a gift.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Re: your point about the proposed v2 being worse than v1 for your
>>>>>>>>>> use case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you say more? You used the argument that in v2 there are more
>>>>>>>>>> support for broader pushdown and as a result it is harder to 
>>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>>>> That's how it is supposed to be. If a data source simply implements 
>>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>>> the trait, it'd be logically identical to v1. I don't see why it 
>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>> worse or better, other than v2 provides much stronger forward 
>>>>>>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>>>> guarantees than v1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 4:54 AM, James Baker <j.ba...@outlook.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Copying from the code review comments I just submitted on the
>>>>>>>>>>> draft API (https://github.com/cloud-fan/
>>>>>>>>>>> spark/pull/10#pullrequestreview-59088745):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Context here is that I've spent some time implementing a Spark
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource and have had some issues with the current API which are 
>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>> worse in V2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The general conclusion I’ve come to here is that this is very
>>>>>>>>>>> hard to actually implement (in a similar but more aggressive way 
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> DataSource V1, because of the extra methods and dimensions we get 
>>>>>>>>>>> in V2).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In DataSources V1 PrunedFilteredScan, the issue is that you are
>>>>>>>>>>> passed in the filters with the buildScan method, and then passed in 
>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>> with the unhandledFilters method.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, the filters that you can’t handle might be data
>>>>>>>>>>> dependent, which the current API does not handle well. Suppose I 
>>>>>>>>>>> can handle
>>>>>>>>>>> filter A some of the time, and filter B some of the time. If I’m 
>>>>>>>>>>> passed in
>>>>>>>>>>> both, then either A and B are unhandled, or A, or B, or neither. 
>>>>>>>>>>> The work I
>>>>>>>>>>> have to do to work this out is essentially the same as I have to do 
>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>> actually generating my RDD (essentially I have to generate my 
>>>>>>>>>>> partitions),
>>>>>>>>>>> so I end up doing some weird caching work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This V2 API proposal has the same issues, but perhaps moreso. In
>>>>>>>>>>> PrunedFilteredScan, there is essentially one degree of freedom for 
>>>>>>>>>>> pruning
>>>>>>>>>>> (filters), so you just have to implement caching between 
>>>>>>>>>>> unhandledFilters
>>>>>>>>>>> and buildScan. However, here we have many degrees of freedom; sorts,
>>>>>>>>>>> individual filters, clustering, sampling, maybe aggregations 
>>>>>>>>>>> eventually -
>>>>>>>>>>> and these operations are not all commutative, and computing my 
>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> one-by-one can easily end up being more expensive than computing 
>>>>>>>>>>> all in one
>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For some trivial examples:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - After filtering, I might be sorted, whilst before filtering I
>>>>>>>>>>> might not be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Filtering with certain filters might affect my ability to push
>>>>>>>>>>> down others.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Filtering with aggregations (as mooted) might not be possible
>>>>>>>>>>> to push down.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And with the API as currently mooted, I need to be able to go
>>>>>>>>>>> back and change my results because they might change later.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Really what would be good here is to pass all of the filters and
>>>>>>>>>>> sorts etc all at once, and then I return the parts I can’t handle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’d prefer in general that this be implemented by passing some
>>>>>>>>>>> kind of query plan to the datasource which enables this kind of
>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. Explicitly don’t want to give the whole query plan - 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds painful - would prefer we push down only the parts of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> query plan
>>>>>>>>>>> we deem to be stable. With the mix-in approach, I don’t think we can
>>>>>>>>>>> guarantee the properties we want without a two-phase thing - I’d 
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> love to be able to just define a straightforward union type which 
>>>>>>>>>>> is our
>>>>>>>>>>> supported pushdown stuff, and then the user can transform and 
>>>>>>>>>>> return it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think this ends up being a more elegant API for consumers, and
>>>>>>>>>>> also far more intuitive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 18:00 蒋星博 <jiangxb1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (Non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xiao Li <gatorsm...@gmail.com>于2017年8月28日 周一下午5:38写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-08-28 12:45 GMT-07:00 Cody Koeninger <c...@koeninger.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to point out that because the jira isn't labeled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPIP, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't have shown up linked from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://spark.apache.org/improvement-proposals.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Wenchen Fan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloud0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It has been almost 2 weeks since I proposed the data source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V2 for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > discussion, and we already got some feedbacks on the JIRA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ticket and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > prototype PR, so I'd like to call for a vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The full document of the Data Source API V2 is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://docs.google.com/docume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nt/d/1n_vUVbF4KD3gxTmkNEon5qdQ-Z8qU5Frf6WMQZ6jJVM/edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Note that, this vote should focus on high-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design/framework, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > specified APIs, as we can always change/improve specified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APIs during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > development.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The vote will be up for the next 72 hours. Please reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your vote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > +1: Yeah, let's go forward and implement the SPIP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > +0: Don't really care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -1: I don't think this is a good idea because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following technical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > reasons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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