+1 as a contributor and as a user. Given the amount of testing required for
all the new cool stuff like java 11 support, major
refactorings/deprecations etc, a preview version would help a lot the
community making adoption smoother long term. I would also add to the list
of issues, Scala 2.13 support (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-25075) assuming things will
move forward faster the next few months.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:08 AM Driesprong, Fokko <fo...@driesprong.frl>
wrote:

> Michael Heuer, that's an interesting issue.
>
> 1.8.2 to 1.9.0 is almost binary compatible (94%):
> http://people.apache.org/~busbey/avro/1.9.0-RC4/1.8.2_to_1.9.0RC4_compat_report.html.
> Most of the stuff is removing the Jackson and Netty API from Avro's public
> API and deprecating the Joda library. I would strongly advise moving to
> 1.9.1 since there are some regression issues, for Java most important:
> https://jira.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-2400
>
> I'd love to dive into the issue that you describe and I'm curious if the
> issue is still there with Avro 1.9.1. I'm a bit busy at the moment but
> might have some time this weekend to dive into it.
>
> Cheers, Fokko Driesprong
>
>
> Op vr 13 sep. 2019 om 02:32 schreef Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com>:
>
>> +1! Long due for a preview release.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 5:26 PM, Holden Karau <hol...@pigscanfly.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the idea from the PoV of giving folks something to start testing
>>> against and exploring so they can raise issues with us earlier in the
>>> process and we have more time to make calls around this.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:15 PM John Zhuge <jzh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1  Like the idea as a user and a DSv2 contributor.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:10 PM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 (as a contributor) from me to have preview release on Spark 3 as it
>>> would help to test the feature. When to cut preview release is
>>> questionable, as major works are ideally to be done before that - if we are
>>> intended to introduce new features before official release, that should
>>> work regardless of this, but if we are intended to have opportunity to test
>>> earlier, ideally it should.
>>>
>>> As a one of contributors in structured streaming area, I'd like to add
>>> some items for Spark 3.0, both "must be done" and "better to have". For
>>> "better to have", I pick some items for new features which committers
>>> reviewed couple of rounds and dropped off without soft-reject (No valid
>>> reason to stop). For Spark 2.4 users, only added feature for structured
>>> streaming is Kafka delegation token. (given we assume revising Kafka
>>> consumer pool as improvement) I hope we provide some gifts for structured
>>> streaming users in Spark 3.0 envelope.
>>>
>>> > must be done
>>> * SPARK-26154 Stream-stream joins - left outer join gives inconsistent
>>> output
>>> It's a correctness issue with multiple users reported, being reported at
>>> Nov. 2018. There's a way to reproduce it consistently, and we have a patch
>>> submitted at Jan. 2019 to fix it.
>>>
>>> > better to have
>>> * SPARK-23539 Add support for Kafka headers in Structured Streaming
>>> * SPARK-26848 Introduce new option to Kafka source - specify timestamp
>>> to start and end offset
>>> * SPARK-20568 Delete files after processing in structured streaming
>>>
>>> There're some more new features/improvements items in SS, but given
>>> we're talking about ramping-down, above list might be realistic one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jean Georges Perrin <j...@jgp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a user/non committer, +1
>>>
>>> I love the idea of an early 3.0.0 so we can test current dev against it,
>>> I know the final 3.x will probably need another round of testing when it
>>> gets out, but less for sure... I know I could checkout and compile, but
>>> having a “packaged” preversion is great if it does not take too much time
>>> to the team...
>>>
>>> jg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2019, at 20:40, Hyukjin Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 from me too but I would like to know what other people think too.
>>>
>>> 2019년 9월 12일 (목) 오전 9:07, Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Sean.
>>>
>>> I'm also +1 for the following three.
>>>
>>> 1. Start to ramp down (by the official branch-3.0 cut)
>>> 2. Apache Spark 3.0.0-preview in 2019
>>> 3. Apache Spark 3.0.0 in early 2020
>>>
>>> For JDK11 clean-up, it will meet the timeline and `3.0.0-preview` helps
>>> it a lot.
>>>
>>> After this discussion, can we have some timeline for `Spark 3.0 Release
>>> Window` in our versioning-policy page?
>>>
>>> - https://spark.apache.org/versioning-policy.html
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>> Dongjoon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 11:54 AM Michael Heuer <heue...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to see Spark + Hadoop + Parquet + Avro compatibility
>>> problems resolved, e.g.
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-25588
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-27781
>>>
>>> Note that Avro is now at 1.9.1, binary-incompatible with 1.8.x.  As far
>>> as I know, Parquet has not cut a release based on this new version.
>>>
>>> Then out of curiosity, are the new Spark Graph APIs targeting 3.0?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/24851
>>> https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/24297
>>>
>>>    michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Sean Owen <sro...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm curious what current feelings are about ramping down towards a
>>> Spark 3 release. It feels close to ready. There is no fixed date,
>>> though in the past we had informally tossed around "back end of 2019".
>>> For reference, Spark 1 was May 2014, Spark 2 was July 2016. I'd expect
>>> Spark 2 to last longer, so to speak, but feels like Spark 3 is coming
>>> due.
>>>
>>> What are the few major items that must get done for Spark 3, in your
>>> opinion? Below are all of the open JIRAs for 3.0 (which everyone
>>> should feel free to update with things that aren't really needed for
>>> Spark 3; I already triaged some).
>>>
>>> For me, it's:
>>> - DSv2?
>>> - Finishing touches on the Hive, JDK 11 update
>>>
>>> What about considering a preview release earlier, as happened for
>>> Spark 2, to get feedback much earlier than the RC cycle? Could that
>>> even happen ... about now?
>>>
>>> I'm also wondering what a realistic estimate of Spark 3 release is. My
>>> guess is quite early 2020, from here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SPARK-29014 DataSourceV2: Clean up current, default, and session catalog
>>> uses
>>> SPARK-28900 Test Pyspark, SparkR on JDK 11 with run-tests
>>> SPARK-28883 Fix a flaky test: ThriftServerQueryTestSuite
>>> SPARK-28717 Update SQL ALTER TABLE RENAME  to use TableCatalog API
>>> SPARK-28588 Build a SQL reference doc
>>> SPARK-28629 Capture the missing rules in HiveSessionStateBuilder
>>> SPARK-28684 Hive module support JDK 11
>>> SPARK-28548 explain() shows wrong result for persisted DataFrames
>>> after some operations
>>> SPARK-28372 Document Spark WEB UI
>>> SPARK-28476 Support ALTER DATABASE SET LOCATION
>>> SPARK-28264 Revisiting Python / pandas UDF
>>> SPARK-28301 fix the behavior of table name resolution with multi-catalog
>>> SPARK-28155 do not leak SaveMode to file source v2
>>> SPARK-28103 Cannot infer filters from union table with empty local
>>> relation table properly
>>> SPARK-28024 Incorrect numeric values when out of range
>>> SPARK-27936 Support local dependency uploading from --py-files
>>> SPARK-27884 Deprecate Python 2 support in Spark 3.0
>>> SPARK-27763 Port test cases from PostgreSQL to Spark SQL
>>> SPARK-27780 Shuffle server & client should be versioned to enable
>>> smoother upgrade
>>> SPARK-27714 Support Join Reorder based on Genetic Algorithm when the #
>>> of joined tables > 12
>>> SPARK-27471 Reorganize public v2 catalog API
>>> SPARK-27520 Introduce a global config system to replace
>>> hadoopConfiguration
>>> SPARK-24625 put all the backward compatible behavior change configs
>>> under spark.sql.legacy.*
>>> SPARK-24640 size(null) returns null
>>> SPARK-24702 Unable to cast to calendar interval in spark sql.
>>> SPARK-24838 Support uncorrelated IN/EXISTS subqueries for more operators
>>> SPARK-24941 Add RDDBarrier.coalesce() function
>>> SPARK-25017 Add test suite for ContextBarrierState
>>> SPARK-25083 remove the type erasure hack in data source scan
>>> SPARK-25383 Image data source supports sample pushdown
>>> SPARK-27272 Enable blacklisting of node/executor on fetch failures by
>>> default
>>> SPARK-27296 User Defined Aggregating Functions (UDAFs) have a major
>>> efficiency problem
>>> SPARK-25128 multiple simultaneous job submissions against k8s backend
>>> cause driver pods to hang
>>> SPARK-26731 remove EOLed spark jobs from jenkins
>>> SPARK-26664 Make DecimalType's minimum adjusted scale configurable
>>> SPARK-21559 Remove Mesos fine-grained mode
>>> SPARK-24942 Improve cluster resource management with jobs containing
>>> barrier stage
>>> SPARK-25914 Separate projection from grouping and aggregate in logical
>>> Aggregate
>>> SPARK-26022 PySpark Comparison with Pandas
>>> SPARK-20964 Make some keywords reserved along with the ANSI/SQL standard
>>> SPARK-26221 Improve Spark SQL instrumentation and metrics
>>> SPARK-26425 Add more constraint checks in file streaming source to
>>> avoid checkpoint corruption
>>> SPARK-25843 Redesign rangeBetween API
>>> SPARK-25841 Redesign window function rangeBetween API
>>> SPARK-25752 Add trait to easily whitelist logical operators that
>>> produce named output from CleanupAliases
>>> SPARK-23210 Introduce the concept of default value to schema
>>> SPARK-25640 Clarify/Improve EvalType for grouped aggregate and window
>>> aggregate
>>> SPARK-25531 new write APIs for data source v2
>>> SPARK-25547 Pluggable jdbc connection factory
>>> SPARK-20845 Support specification of column names in INSERT INTO
>>> SPARK-24417 Build and Run Spark on JDK11
>>> SPARK-24724 Discuss necessary info and access in barrier mode +
>>> Kubernetes
>>> SPARK-24725 Discuss necessary info and access in barrier mode + Mesos
>>> SPARK-25074 Implement maxNumConcurrentTasks() in
>>> MesosFineGrainedSchedulerBackend
>>> SPARK-23710 Upgrade the built-in Hive to 2.3.5 for hadoop-3.2
>>> SPARK-25186 Stabilize Data Source V2 API
>>> SPARK-25376 Scenarios we should handle but missed in 2.4 for barrier
>>> execution mode
>>> SPARK-25390 data source V2 API refactoring
>>> SPARK-7768 Make user-defined type (UDT) API public
>>> SPARK-14922 Alter Table Drop Partition Using Predicate-based Partition
>>> Spec
>>> SPARK-15691 Refactor and improve Hive support
>>> SPARK-15694 Implement ScriptTransformation in sql/core
>>> SPARK-16217 Support SELECT INTO statement
>>> SPARK-16452 basic INFORMATION_SCHEMA support
>>> SPARK-18134 SQL: MapType in Group BY and Joins not working
>>> SPARK-18245 Improving support for bucketed table
>>> SPARK-19842 Informational Referential Integrity Constraints Support in
>>> Spark
>>> SPARK-22231 Support of map, filter, withColumn, dropColumn in nested
>>> list of structures
>>> SPARK-22632 Fix the behavior of timestamp values for R's DataFrame to
>>> respect session timezone
>>> SPARK-22386 Data Source V2 improvements
>>> SPARK-24723 Discuss necessary info and access in barrier mode + YARN
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