There are a number of email threads and JIRA issues regarding upgrading various 
storm dependencies, so I’d like to enumerate them and discuss them in one 
thread.

Here’s the list so far:

1. Kryo/Carbonite (STORM-263)[1]
2. Clojure (STORM-265) [2]
3. commons-io (STORM-258) [3]
4. curator (STORM-252) [4]
5. http-client [5]

I am +1 for all of the above, with the exception of #2, which I am +0 only 
because I personally haven’t had a chance to do any testing with newer versions 
of clojure. I’d be interested to hear if anyone has done any testing with newer 
versions of clojure. 

I think we should at least consider a bump to clojure 1.5 since it includes 
Bobby Evan’s patch that fixes error output getting swallowed (this manifests 
itself as the maven-clojure-plugin failing without any useful information when 
there are certain AOT compilation issues — very annoying).

- Taylor

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-263
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-265
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-258
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-252
[5] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/storm-user/201402.mbox/%[email protected]%3E

On Mar 26, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Brian O'Neill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agreed.  One of our guys got hung up on that just yesterday.
> It isn’t hard to track down the assembly, but it might be worth making it a 
> bit easier.
> 
> Also, I’d love to see STORM-263 included in the next release.   It seems like 
> a quick win.
> 
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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Kang Xiao <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> hi guys  
>> 
>> How about adding a bin/build_release.sh (http://build_release.sh) script in 
>> this 0.9.2-incubating release?  
>> 
>> Since some guys asked the question about building storm release package more 
>> than once in the mail list.  
>> 
>> --  
>> Best Regards!
>> 
>> 肖康(Kang Xiao,<[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>)
>> Distributed Software Engineer
>> 
>> 在 2014年3月25日 星期二,1:38,Suresh Srinivas 写道:
>>> Taylor, I am not very clear on "Lazy consensus +2". By this definition code
>>> can committed with no +1 from a committer, right?
>>> 
>>> You may want to look at Hadoop bylaws -
>>> https://hadoop.apache.org/bylaws.html
>>> 
>>> The code commits in Hadoop are consensus approval with minimum +1 from an
>>> active committer and no veto. This has worked well in my experience. It may
>>> be a good idea to also adapt minimum 3 +1s from active committers for
>>> merging feature branches.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:22 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <[email protected] 
>>> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That brings up a good point that probably deserves a separate thread.
>>>> 
>>>> We should establish by-laws soon. Specifically a commit/merge policy.
>>>> 
>>>> For code changes, I've been operating under a "lazy consensus +2" model: 2
>>>> committer +1 votes and no vetoes (-1). If a committer submits the patch,
>>>> that's an implicit +1. Unless it's a somewhat urgent fix, I've been waiting
>>>> for 3 binding votes and no vetoes.
>>>> 
>>>> That's kind of a middle ground between the traditional code modification
>>>> rule and lazy consensus [1].
>>>> 
>>>> When wearing my "release manager" hat, I've also interpreted "code change"
>>>> to mean "anything that alters the behavior of the software we produce." In
>>>> terms of the build/packaging I've been a little looser. For large changes
>>>> (e.g. The switch to maven), I've waited for 3 binding votes. For some
>>>> changes I've committed directly -- I don't think we need to have a 3-day
>>>> vote on updating the CHANGELOG, for example.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, it's something to think about. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
>>>> 
>>>> +1 (again ;) )
>>>> 
>>>> Taylor
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Nathan Marz <[email protected] 
>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's get https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-262 in there. Just
>>>>> one more vote needed by a committer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Patrick Lucas <[email protected] 
>>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A fix STORM-120 would be greatly appreciated. It's making it impossible
>>>> to
>>>>>> increase tasks/executors > 1 when there is a downstream shuffle
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> grouping.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure why there haven't been more reports of problems with it.
>>>> Two
>>>>>> possibilities I can think of are that we are using exclusively shell
>>>>>> components--perhaps there's a root-cause bug in those component
>>>>>> classes--and
>>>>>> that we are dealing with a high volume stream of large tuples.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (thousands /
>>>>>> sec, KB in size)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <[email protected] 
>>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Never mind... just found it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Derek do you have an idea for a fix?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Derek Dagit <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As I said above, this fix is the most important in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>> STORM-259 (Random#nextInt) is new to me -- can't say whether it's as
>>>>>>>>>> important as STORM-187 or not.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, we found it recently, and I created it this morning after
>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>> Taylor's mail.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> STORM-187 can be a problem with fewer than 30 retries (likelihood
>>>>>>> depends on configuration), but we will hit STORM-259 when retries
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> exceeds
>>>>>>> 30.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/14, 14:18, Michael G. Noll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On my side the most important change is, as you point out,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> STORM-187.
>>>>>>>>>> The primary reason is like Adam Lewis is pointing out because it's a
>>>>>>>>>> stability problem. The secondary aspect is that this issue taints
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> new Netty backend, and at least IMHO the faster Storm could
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> confidently
>>>>>>>>>> bury ZeroMQ the better. :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As I said above, this fix is the most important in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>> STORM-259 (Random#nextInt) is new to me -- can't say whether it's as
>>>>>>>>>> important as STORM-187 or not.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Switching to my non-essential wishlist I'd also +1 STORM-252
>>>> (Upgrade
>>>>>>>>>> Curator and thus ZooKeeper to 3.4.5). We have been running ZK 3.4.5
>>>>>>>>>> anyway for a couple of reasons, and it would be nice to have
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>> Storm support for the latest ZK version (ok, the recently released
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ZK
>>>>>>>>>> 3.4.6 is actually the latest but hey). Although I don't know how
>>>>>>>>>> confident we are that the code in STORM-252 actually works, i.e.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>> integrating STORM-252 into 0.9.2 on such short notice would be
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>>>>> the gun or a safe move.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Btw, in terms of Storm/Kafka integration Kafka is in the same boat:
>>>>>>>>>> it's built against ZK 3.3.x, and LinkedIn recommends the use of ZK
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3.3.4
>>>>>>>>>> in the docs. There's an open ticket KAFKA-854 [1] that's basically
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> equivalent of STORM-252, but I'm not sure how actively the Kafka
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> team
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> working on that.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-854
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/20/2014 02:33 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to get this discussion started, largely because the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "negative timeout" bug (STORM-187) really bothers me. I've not seen it
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> in
>>>>>>> the wild, but I've heard of a few cases where it was enough to hinder
>>>>>>> upgrading.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> HEAD looks good to me at the moment, with the major difference
>>>> being
>>>>>>> the zookeeper update and the patch mentioned above.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on other PRs or patches to include?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -Taylor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Patrick Lucas
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Twitter: @nathanmarz
>>>>> http://nathanmarz.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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