On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Greg Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Ant. I'm on a phone right now, and have not read the background. (so, 
> terse response). But the dev@ list is fine. In my mind, a probationary TLP is 
> a conversation between a community and the Board. And dev@ is the community, 
> so is the best place to discuss before bringing an idea to the Board.
> 
> On Aug 6, 2013 1:10 AM, "ant elder" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was wondering if the Stratos dev list is the best place to be
> discussing this, there are probably interested people who aren't
> subscribed or following here, though maybe general@incubator wouldn't
> be ideal either. I've cc'd Chris and Greg in this email so they at
> least know its here as they've expressed interest in the past.
> 
> Ok lets do it here then.
> 
> One of the things i'm stuggling with at the moment is what would be the 
> differences with Stratos becoming a pTLP compared with just graduating. 
> 
> Looking at graduating, the Incubator minimum graduation requirements are 
> documented here: 
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements
> 
> With Stratos having so many of its contributors be existing ASF committers, 
> PMC members, or ASF members it would be easy to argue for automatically 
> ticking off many of those requirements and then not much is left to do on the 
> graduation requirements list. The main one would be checking the "Stratos" 
> name for trademark issues, eg someone needs to go through: 
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html. Once thats done then a regular 
> resolution for graduation could be submitted to the board.
> 
> I know that wouldn't so much help progress the pTLP topic, is that a goal of 
> Stratos here?
> 
>    …ant

Hi Ant,

This is exactly I am having the trouble getting my head around. I am seeing 
this as two separate issues, one furthering the topic of pTLP with Stratos as 
the use case. This will be a good guinea pig project with a wealth of exiting 
ASF and PMC members/committers. Second quick leap into graduation, which I 
agree is only few steps away. 

Hi All,

I see the project is doing very well in engaging the community, doing lot of 
information sharing and conducting business in mailing lists and jira.  Either 
pTLP or graduation, the outstanding tasks I am looking forward to see the 
progress: getting a release right with properly formulated license and notice 
files (especially for convenience binaries which bundle third party 
dependencies) and see working progress in removing dependence on ws02 
repositories. I see now a big list of dependencies are not coming from maven 
central but from wso2 repos this is good to avoid. Essentially the parent pom 
[1] should be able to point to apache parent and remove all the repos here. 

Suresh 

[1] - 
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-stratos.git;a=blob_plain;f=pom.xml;hb=HEAD

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