> AFAICS, the lazy consensus for this topic > among the PPMC is mapping the current PPMC members and committers > structure to the graduated PMC members and committers structure. > > This is doable and actually what Kvrocks/OpenDAL does during its graduation. > We can regard this round as a chance to review our > contributors/committers and nominate them if desired. > > If this is the consensus, we can make an explicit agreement.
This looks good. You would include the lazy consensus as an item to vote when you call for the graduation vote in dev@. Best, tison. tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2024年8月20日周二 08:09写道： > > > what else I must do as a PPMC Member > > There is not a must for a single PPMC member but the PPMC as whole. > You can check [1] for some definitions. > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html > > But in summary, the (P)PMC manages the project (incubating or > top-level), decides its direction, manages trademark and branding > issues, invites active contributors to the team, and more, to develop > a diverse and vital community. > > In this thread, deciding the (initial) PMC membership if StreamPark > graduates to a TLP is a topic and the PPMC should take the > responsibility to answer this question. > > Best, > tison. > > Huajie Wang <benj...@apache.org> 于2024年8月12日周一 15:02写道： > > > > AFAICS, the lazy consensus for this topic > > among the PPMC is mapping the current PPMC members and committers > > structure to the graduated PMC members and committers structure. > > > > This is doable and actually what Kvrocks/OpenDAL does during its graduation. > > We can regard this round as a chance to review our > > contributors/committers and nominate them if desired. > > > > If this is the consensus, we can make an explicit agreement. > > > > > > Best, > > Huajie Wang > > > > > > > > Huajie Wang <benj...@apache.org> 于2024年8月12日周一 15:01写道： > > > > > Thanks tison and all: > > > > > > > > > Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the > > > members of the PMC; we need to decide which members will serve as PTL PMC > > > members. > > > > > > Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > > > members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > > > > > > I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > > > PMC unless there is a certain issue. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > Huajie Wang > > > > > > > > > > > > Chunjin Mu <muchun...@apache.org> 于2024年8月9日周五 15:57写道： > > > > > >> hi, tison > > >> > > >> Hello Tison, your question has served as a wake-up call for me. First of > > >> all, I strongly support Apache StreamPark to graduate as a Top-Level > > >> Project (TLP). During the incubation period, I can see that the nominated > > >> committers and PPMC members have put in a lot of effort. I think it is so > > >> happy for everyone, especially the committers and PPMC members, to see > > >> her > > >> successfully graduate. I am indeed a little vague about the > > >> responsibilities of PPMC Members. This is my first time to participate in > > >> open source, that is, this is my first project to contribute, so even > > >> when > > >> I made the most contributions, I was not very clear about what my > > >> responsibilities were. I mostly did what I could when I was free, or > > >> things > > >> related to my company's internal applications. For example, the content I > > >> contributed was what my company needed. I was responsible for publishing > > >> in > > >> order to understand the process more, and writing related technical > > >> articles and promoting it at the conference was also to promote my own > > >> company. Later, after the company's internal functional requirements were > > >> basically met, my activity and contribution in the community gradually > > >> decreased, but I have been promoting streampark at the open source > > >> conferences Flink Forward Asia 2022/2023 and CommunityOverCode Asia > > >> 2023/2024. I described my thoughts truthfully, and my vision is not high, > > >> haha, so I would like to ask Teacher Tison what else I must do as a PPMC > > >> Member? If I know, I believe I can do it, thank you very much. > > >> > > >> > > >> tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2024年8月6日周二 19:09写道： > > >> > > >> > I wonder if all the participants above don't have opinions on who > > >> > should consist of the members of the PMC after graduation. > > >> > > > >> > This should be the first question the initial PMC should consider. I > > >> > can see some of the PPMC members reply above but ignore this question. > > >> > If so, this can be a signal that you may not understand what a PMC > > >> > should take responsibility of. > > >> > > > >> > Best, > > >> > tison. > > >> > > > >> > Qingrong wang <monr...@apache.org> 于2024年8月6日周二 18:50写道： > > >> > > > > >> > > +1 > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks Huajie for driving this discussion and collecting statistical > > >> > > information! > > >> > > > > >> > > Over the past two years, I've observed StreamPark's impressive > > >> > > journey > > >> > > as part of the Apache Incubator. During this incubation period, the > > >> > > project has experienced significant growth, attracting a vibrant > > >> > > community of contributors and gaining adoption by numerous companies. > > >> > > > > >> > > I firmly believe that achieving TLP status will further enhance > > >> > > StreamPark's appeal to developers and users alike, positioning it as > > >> > > a > > >> > > more mature and reliable project. This milestone will undoubtedly aid > > >> > > in expanding its community and solidifying its foundation. > > >> > > > > >> > > I am enthusiastic about StreamPark's potential as a TLP and look > > >> > > forward to contributing to its ongoing success. > > >> > > > > >> > > Best regards, > > >> > > WangQingrong > > >> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 5:29 PM VampireAchao <ac...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Huajie and all, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I fully support the proposal for StreamPark to graduate as a > > >> Top-Level > > >> > > > Project (TLP). > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The growth and maturity of our community over the incubation period > > >> are > > >> > > > indeed impressive. Graduating as a TLP will bring several benefits > > >> to > > >> > our > > >> > > > project, including: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 1. Increased Visibility: Achieving TLP status will raise the > > >> project's > > >> > > > profile, attracting more contributors and users, which will further > > >> > > > strengthen our community. > > >> > > > 2. Enhanced Credibility: Graduation signals the project's stability > > >> and > > >> > > > maturity, giving potential users and contributors greater > > >> confidence in > > >> > > > adopting and contributing to StreamPark. > > >> > > > 3. Autonomy: As a TLP, StreamPark will have more autonomy in > > >> > > > decision-making, allowing us to innovate and grow the project more > > >> > > > effectively. > > >> > > > 4. Improved Resource Allocation: Graduating may provide better > > >> access > > >> > to > > >> > > > resources and support from the Apache Software Foundation, enabling > > >> us > > >> > to > > >> > > > enhance our infrastructure and development processes. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Given the solid metrics and the significant progress we've made, I > > >> > believe > > >> > > > StreamPark is well-prepared for this important milestone. Let’s > > >> > > > move > > >> > > > forward with the graduation process and continue to build on our > > >> > success. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Best regards, > > >> > > > Achao > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Huajie Wang <benj...@apache.org> 于2024年8月2日周五 09:04写道： > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi, all > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > StreamPark began its incubation journey on 9/10, 2022. Since > > >> > > > > then, > > >> > our > > >> > > > > community has significantly matured. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > - Currently, our community consists of 15 committers, including > > >> > > > > mentors, with 9 serving as PPMC members. > > >> > > > > - At present, we boast 146 contributors. > > >> > > > > - Throughout the incubation period, we've made 6 releases > > >> > > > > - We've had 5 different release managers to date. > > >> > > > > - Our software is in production and used by 70 known entities. > > >> > > > > - To date, we have opened 1,430 issues, with 1,218 successfully > > >> > resolved. > > >> > > > > - We have submitted a total of 2,353 PRs, out of which 2,347 have > > >> > been > > >> > > > > merged or closed. > > >> > > > > - We have 6 public speeches(FFA 2022, COC 2023, COC2024) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Do you think we are ready for graduating as a TLP? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > [1]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark/issues/163 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > > >> > > > > Huajie Wang > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >
