On 11/27/07, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't disagree with most of what you say here, and what Phillip says in > his reply, so let me make a more concrete suggestion: make the plugin > registry much more prominent on the Struts home page (that is to say, > mention it at all, since I don't see it on the front page anywhere at > present).
It has a 150px wide button in yellow on the homepage [1] ;-) But I agree that it might need a bit more 'marketing'. - Phil [1] http://struts.apache.org/2.x/ > That way, it looks much more "official" and "endorsed", but > still retains the benefits you outline here. Again, it's really just a > matter of perception in the end, and if this helps make it look like > something more than just some outside and yet completely independent > entity, as does the Sourceforge project (which is at least mentioned on > the home page), then that might be all that's needed to make it work. > > Frank > > -- > Frank W. Zammetti > Founder and Chief Software Architect > Omnytex Technologies > http://www.omnytex.com > AIM/Yahoo: fzammetti > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Author of "Practical Ajax Projects With Java Technology" > (2006, Apress, ISBN 1-59059-695-1) > and "JavaScript, DOM Scripting and Ajax Projects" > (2007, Apress, ISBN 1-59059-816-4) > Java Web Parts - http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net > Supplying the wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it! > > On Tue, November 27, 2007 11:54 am, Ted Husted wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2007 11:22 AM, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It may be nothing more than a matter of perception and nothing more, but > >> I > >> think externally-hosted projects will automatically have a connotation > >> of > >> not being "golden" as you say, no matter what else is done to say > >> otherwise, as I believe happened with the Sourceforge-hosted items. I > >> may > >> be wrong, but that's what I believe to be the case. > > > > Not all ASF projects are "golden", and there are many "golden" > > projects that have not joined the ASF. Though, quite a few ASF > > projects are popular; certainly more than the average open-source > > startup. One reason is probably the ASF project management style, or > > the "Apache Way". > > > > One effect of the Apache Way is that it tends to favor a conservative > > approach. We need multiple people to agree to an implementation, or at > > least agree to a release, and forging that agreement can work against > > innovation. > > > > To help promote innovation at the ASF, we even started an Apache Labs > > project, so that ASF committers could experiment with new code before > > proposing an actual project. But, the Apache Labs are only open to > > committers, and sometimes, we want to collaborate on a codebase with > > someone who isn't a committer (at least, not yet). > > > > An important aspect of an external project is that it makes it easier > > for Struts committers to work with other volunteers, without fussing > > with the ASF brouhaha. The Apache Way is a great way to manage a > > mature stable project, but it is not a great way to experiment with > > new plugins. > > > > As an Struts PMC member, I am *very* concerned about plugin > > proliferation in the standard distribution, mainly because the kids > > need shoes, and we don't have enough volunteer hours to apply all the > > patches that people already submit. I would like to encourage a plugin > > commuity, and a shared external project seemed like one way to do > > that. > > > > -Ted. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Software Architect - Hydrodesk "Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live." - John F. Woods --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
