On Nov 27, 2007 12:35 PM, Philip Luppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Struts 2 must be the most 'quiet' framework I have ever encountered
> (for such a big & mature framework) It's like there never was a hype
> fase (probably due to the webwork inheritance) - note: hype is used in
> a positive. And yes, I'm as guilty as the next one for not raving
> about it more on the internet (probably even more lately).

Historically, we've channeled our effort into helping people on the
user list, and quietly promoting third-party resources. In fact, it's
probably time to break the "other resources" section into its own
page.

 * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/home.html#Home-OtherResources

For us, the "Build! Deploy! Maintain!" bit on the S2 home page is
radical hype! :)

Of course, please remember we come from the Apache HTTPD tradition
(http://httpd.apache.org), where what matter is that the system just
plain works.

People do often tell me things like "Struts works great for us. I
don't think we've ever found a bug in Struts 1." Or, that "the hardest
part of Struts 1 development is that, it's so easy, our developers are
bored".

Out in the blogosphere, people have to hype other frameworks.
Otherwise, the only one anyone would ever use is Struts 1. :)


> We have quite some plugins, some have been downloaded over a 1000
> times, yet it seems unnaturally quiet on the plugin front. Is it
> indeed due to 'bad marketing' ? Or do users just don't care ?

Many of the plugins are esoteric and may not have a lot of users yet.
Or, they might just work, and don't generate a lot of support request
(a al Stripes).

We could also use a prettier repository page, and a prettier S2 site
in general. People are doing some nice work with the autoexport style
sheets these days. Take a tour of <http://cwiki.apache.org/>. (Though
I don't know what's going to happen if we upgrade to Confluence 2.6.x,
since the stylesheet support has changed.)

-Ted.

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