On Jan 16, 2008 6:24 AM, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Cooper wrote:
> >> That's a fair question, but I have an answer for it.
> >
> > Of course you do. If you didn't, I'd think you'd gone on vacation or
> > something. ;-)
>
> :)
>
> > So you're saying that if a non-committer thinks a release looks OK, a +1
> > says just that and means nothing more,
>
> Yes.
>
>  > whereas if a committer thinks it
> > looks OK, they can't vote the same way unless they're committing to support
> > it, and therefore cannot contribute to the binding vote count required for a
> > release.
>
> Yes.
>
>  > But why would the non-committer vote in such an inconsistent way?
> > Surely the appropriate thing to do would be to vote +0, which is what the
> > committer would have to do in order to indicate that they thought the
> > release looked OK but were not in a position to support it.
>
> No, because that would also imply that the non-binding +1 has the same
> implied willingness to support (because otherwise there would be no
> difference between 0 and +1), and I contend that *NO* non-binding vote
> *EVER* carries that implication, as a binding vote does.  Binding and
> non-binding votes cannot be equated in any way other than the statement
> about the fitness of the release, otherwise there would be no reason to
> differentiate binding from non-binding votes in the first place.  Any
> meaning above and beyond fitness of release is the sole pervue of the
> binding votes and voters.
>
> > In any case, I'm going to sign out of this discussion now, as I have enough
> > to do keeping up with my day job, and don't feel the need to further defend
> > my right to vote +1 as I feel appropriate.
>
> That's cool Martin, I'm bowing out now too.  You've made your position
> clear, and anyone can read it and make up their own mind about it.  I'm
> glad you got the chance to "defend your right", as you see it.

For the record I agree with Martin and in my book votes-are-votes
whoever they come from.

Niall

> > Martin Cooper
>
> Frank

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