First off I was under the impression that the jstl was already supported
through means of the StrutsRequestWrapper, correct ?

Second, I always thought of the custom tags and ognl as a core part of the
framework and also it's core strength. Seeing people on this list discus
removing it  makes me ...  somewhat nervous. Why would be the reasons to do
this. Everything from formatting, typeconversion to databinding uses ognl
under the hood and provides a lot of flexibility

On 3/23/08, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's a dependency, not a requirement, to be precise although I guess you
> meant
> that. To create a stripped-down struts, I'd ditch OGNL and do the
> conversion and
> formatting with some other way. Bear in mind, OGNL is used all over for
> other
> stuff too, but I did say I'd also ditch that.
>
> Bob Tiernay on 21/03/08 15:56, wrote:
> > Really??? I didn't realize OGNL was a requirement for tags to perform
> > conversion and formatting.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:58 AM
> > To: "Struts Developers List" <dev@struts.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...
> >
> >> No it doesn't, but then neither does the Struts tags if "no OGNL"  :)
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Adam Hardy <
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Really??? I don't think jsp:getProperty does conversion and formatting
> -
> >>> does it?
> >>>
> >>> James Mitchell on 20/03/08 16:49, wrote:
> >>> > Actually, and not trying to be funny here, but ... that's available
> >>> today...
> >>> >
> >>> > <jsp:getProperty name="myBean" property="foo"/>
> >>> >
> >>> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/tags/11/tags11.html
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Adam Hardy <
> >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> +1
> >>> >>
> >>> >> in fact, i'd write a new taglibrary with just lightweight support
> for
> >>> form
> >>> >> properties, conversion, and formatting. No HTML, no Ajax, no OGNL,
> no
> >>> >> value stack.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Then I'd do a session of performance testing to see what the
> >>> improvement
> >>> >> was
> >>> >> (did somebody else suggest that?).
> >>> >>
>
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