Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 23:14:20 +0200:
> Den sön 27 juni 2021 kl 20:34 skrev Daniel Shahaf <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>:
> Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Sat, 26 Jun 2021 21:12 +00:00:
> > https://www.elegosoft.com/en_US/page/nachlese-subversion-hackathon-berlin-2013,
> > however that page is only in german now. I'm considering linking to
> > archive.org, however there are some recorded talks and interviews that I
> > can't find anymore. Does anyone have the original
> >
> > Do you mean these? —
> >

[One level of >-quoting is missing here.]

> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-01-What_is_New_in_Subversion_1-8_with_Stefan_Sperling.mp4
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-02-Interview_with_C_Michael_Pilato.mp4
> >
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-03-Automatic_Mergin_in_Subversion_1-8_with_Julian_Foad.mp4
> >
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-04-On_the_Way_to_Fast_and_Scalable_Repositories_with_Stefan_Fuhrmann.mp4
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-05-Interview_with_Johan_Corveleyn.mp4
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-06-Interview_with_Bert_Huijben.mp4
> >
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-07-Why_Git_Merges_Better_than_Subversion_with_Neels_J_Hofmeyr.mp4
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-08-Interview_with_Ben_Reser.mp4
> > SVN_Hackathon_Berlin_2013-09-Interview_with_Branko_Cibej.mp4
> >
> > I have a copy of them.
> >
> 
> These are the ones, yes. I see four different options with this link:

Note there are *two* links to that page: one in news.html, one in HACKING.

> - Modify the link to point to elego's current site. Pro: Least work, also
> linking to a current site. Con: In german, only and doesn't contain the
> links to the interviews.

How do you get the German version?  Here I get only a 404.

> - Modify the link to point to elego's old site via archive.org. Pro: "As it
> was supposed to be" Con: That page (
> https://web.archive.org/web/20171206002300/https://www.elegosoft.com/en_US/page/nachlese-subversion-hackathon-berlin-2013)
> contains links to the interviews, but those links are 404.
> - Keep the link, but mark it as obsolete. Pro: No re-writing of history.
> Con: We loose some part of history.
> - Copy the contents from archive.org and host it including the interviews
> on the site or in WIKI. Pro: Preserve history. Con: Copyright issue needs
> to be resolved with elego (and whoever took the photos).

Fifth option:

- Link to elego's page in archive.org, and mirror the interviews (with
  permission, if one is needed)

Also, regardless of what we do, it's probably a good idea that someone
other than me should have a copy of the interviews, if nothing else then
for future archaeologists.

> 
> > > and could we add them to our own site?
> >
> > If elego doesn't mind, I guess?
> >
> 
> I should rephrase: Do we want to? Are there still relevant information in
> these interviews?
> 

I guess they have value, if only historical.

> > > * There are a lot of links in /docs/ concerning older versions. Should
> > > we keep them frozen as a historic document or try to update them? For
> > > future versions, I will try to fix the obvious in the code (but that's
> > > another project).
> >
> > Not sure what you have in mind here.  Example?
> >
> 
> Links to java.sun.com in the javahl docs. This is probably from docstrings
> in the source.
> Links to www.doxygen.org in the api docs. These are "generated by".
> 
> I'm leaning towards leaving old docs as-is (especially the "generated by"),
> but change the docstrings in the source for a future release.
> 

Sure.  And FWIW, there's nothing stopping us from updating the links in
the HEAD revision of old minor branches, including unsupported ones.
That doesn't even require STATUS voting [1].

[1] 
https://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html#release-stabilization-backportable-changes

> > > * Same thing with older release notes. Should we keep them frozen as a
> > > historic document or try to update them?
> >
> > Older release notes are part of the current release's documentation, so
> > I vote to update them.
> >
> 
>  r1891094.

Thanks.

Daniel

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