Hi Oliver,
thanks for your fast and detailed reply.
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software engineer - Microsystems Inc schrieb:
Hi Jacqueline,
here are some answers and comments:
(...)
ad "Is new attribute outline level needed at paragraph":
Having this new attribute also at paragraphs has the following reasons:
- The attribute already exists in the OpenDocument file format at
paragraphs, which are headings - it's text:outline-level. In the
OpenDocument file format this attribute only exist at paragraphs and
*not* at paragraph styles. Currently, the attribute only exists
indirectly at the paragraph. But, we (the iTeam) think, it is natural to
support this attribute directly at the paragraph.
- Also usable from users, which don't care/know styles.
- For consistency: Attributes are in general available at the paragraph
style and the paragraph
Ok, I'm not really happy to see this attribute also in paragraphs, but I
understand the reasons. Not all attributes are in general available at
the paragraph style (e.g. font attributes), but you want to add the
outline level attribute in the numbering pane (which is available in
both), so that should be ok and I will bear this :-)
ad "Visiualize outline numbering in paragraph style dialog and paragraph
dialog"
This is a good point and a sensible improvement. I will try to persuade
the iTeam, to include this information about the outline level.
ad "suggestion a)"
Also a good point. I will discuss it with the iTeam
ad "suggestion b)"
Also a good point. But, why do we need such search, if all headings are
visible in the navigator?
The navigator only shows paragraphs with an outline level >0, but you
can't see, if they inherited the level from a parent paragraph style or
if the level is set directly at the paragraph.
The attribute search allows to find every paragraph which is changed
directly without using styles (or additionally by using styls). So it
would easily be possible to identify all paragraphs with outline level
>0 where the attribute is set directly in the paragraph. This would
ease troubleshooting.
Futhermore the navigator only shows the headings, but changing them must
be done one by one. This would be different using find & replace.
BTW: ATM I can change a level of a heading in the navigator (promote /
demote level) - in this case automatically the paragraph style changes,
which is defined in the outline numbering. It would be useful, if I can
change the outline level of "non-outline-numbering"-paragraphs via the
navigator, too.
ad "Impact on outline numbering"
The current outline numbering isn't planned to be changed. There is a
special list style, called outline style, and to each of its list levels
a paragraph style can be assigned.
But, this the new attribute you've got the freedom to define another
list style for the numbering of headings. You can assign this list style
to paragraph styles, which have different outline levels set, and you
can apply these paragraph style to the paragraphs. What's additional
needed is that you have to move the paragraph to the intended list level.
ad "Impact on TOC"
This is a missing feature in OOo Writer. The insufficiency here is, that
currently no link target exists for such TOC items. I don't know of any
planned change in this area.
ad "Impact on pdf-export"
Do you mean the bookmarks for the TOC entries created by additional
added styles? If yes, then it seems to be related to the previous point.
Yes, this 3 points are related... But I think, it is useless to have a
workaround for a special outline numbering, if this doesn't affect the
TOC or the pdf-export. I'm not sure, if I can do something to bring
forward this missing feature, but I will try for.
ad "Impact on Masterdocument creation"
Yes, this should be a feature, that should be included. I will discuss
this feature in the iTeam.
Thank you for your feedback.
Regards, Oliver.
Regards,
Jacqueline
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