Hi Mark

These are only the glues, the deps all are set to provided. I think Gerhard
suggested doing it that way, somilar to other Apache projects. The code is
based on JUL only....

Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> schrieb am Sa., 3. Jan. 2015 um
15:19:

> Log4j 2 is not widely used and would be another dep - a pain in almost all
> containers for sure - so im not to use it as api.
> Le 3 janv. 2015 14:57, "Werner Keil" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> > Is there something wrong in using Log4J, especially V2 that has a decent
> > separation of API and connectors similar fo SLF4J?
> >
> > Unless we wanted to minimize external dependencies, JUL is there not just
> > since Java 8?
> >
> > Werner
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I've seen we have plenty of logging frameworks in our core now.
> > > I did already remove this once as I suggest to only use the
> > > java.util.logging.Logger facade.
> > >
> > > Of course I'm aware that jul logger sucks. But we just use it as facade
> > > really. There are plenty of frameworks to use this facade.
> > >
> > > I especially disklike slf4j in container projects because
> > > a.) it often creates classloader issues
> > > b.) there have been binary incompatible changes in the past. That might
> > > create NoClassDefFound and other bad situations within customer
> project.
> > >
> > > So I suggest we really go back to jul only.
> > >
> > >
> > > LieGrue,
> > > strub
> > >
> >
>

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