T5-ioc  moved from xml to java to leverage existing editors,
.html templates did that already, so I'm for .html tempaltes

power users however should have a way to change this (change ext. or add
more)...

Davor Hrg

On 9/19/07, Don Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 18 Sep 2007, at 15:53, Massimo Lusetti wrote:
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> > On 9/18/07, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I kind of see the extension/editor issue as a straw man.
> >
> > Maybe but i would not make the error of not taking in consideration
> > the power of the gui-guys they often talk a language more similar
> > to the boss's one and it's not that easy to balance.
> >
> > I would prefer html or xhtml...
>
> I think Massimo's point here is well made and very important. The
> "gui-guys" or "designers" or whatever you want to call them is a
> constituency that is very under-represented in this forum. And this
> is a problem because they have considerable influence over technology
> decisions. (Quite apart from the language they talk, they are often
> client-facing and consequently were involved in "winning" the project
> in the first place. This grants them a lot of clout.) The irony here
> is that the traditional Tapestry approach of HTML templates is hugely
> attractive to them. So we should be celebrating rather than lamenting
> the fact that they are influential people. From my experience, if
> they can double-click on a template (even when away from their own
> machine) and see an accurate representation of the page with no tag
> noise, they really, really like that. And they retain their sense of
> ownership of the templates (which doesn't happen in other frameworks,
> where their lovingly constructed mock-ups are stomped on and rendered
> unviewable by some developer.) So I think it would require very
> compelling argument to cede this ground to Wicket or Facelets or
> whatever.
>
> Ideally, you would want to retain the benefits of the old while
> reaping the benefits of the new. On the face of it, the "invisible
> instrumentation" angle (of using traditional Tapestry IDs rather than
> Tapestry tags) could achieve this. However, it would need to be
> monitored that all the things that can be done with the tags can be
> straightforwardly and equivalently done with the traditional IDs. If
> this is not the case, the invisible instrumentation approach will
> have been implicitly deprecated. I think it would be worthwhile
> giving consideration to retaining the IDs approach as the one that
> would appear in the standard examples and tutorial material.
> Developers will know a bit more and will play around with the
> equivalent representation. Designers, on the other hand, are going to
> think that tag-based templates just look like JSP to them. Which
> would be a pity.
>
> Don.
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