I like Howard because his genuine care for developers always shows through the API's he creates. It'd be nice if more developers did this but that's just how it is....lots of people suck =p
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Fernando Padilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe there is an 80/20 rule at play here, but I've always been pretty > happy with maven. But I suppose I'm not pushing the envelope that much, > and maven is probably a god-send for most projects. :) > > > Funny I just drew a parallel to Maven and IoC systems like Spring: > Industry standards that Howard hates and wants to avoid. :) :) Guess I > won't be surprised if we see a Tapestry Build coming along.. :) :) for > better or for worse.. > > but I guess I'm glad for Howard's trail blazing attitudes or we would > still be using things like Struts :) > > fernando > > > > > > Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2008 11:16 AM, Christian Edward Gruber > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> True. You can always stop using maven. My problem with that (purely > >> in my own experience) is that it replace the gawd-aweful 50K-worth-of- > >> ant-scripts/make-files I've inherited. The notion of a stable > >> lifecycle (even if I have to do more work to lock down the plugins) > >> ends up being more than worth it. But that's my own situation. Your > >> mileage may vary. Given that they're working out some issues at the > >> core, I guess the next step after that is to work out quality in the > >> plugins themselves. > >> > >> Anyway, I guess this has really strayed OT. Sorry. It's just after > >> having built build system after build system in *make/jam/ant, and > >> seen the crap that ends up accumulating in corporate builds at my > >> clients, Maven still seems the cleanest way to get to reproducible AND > >> manageable builds. Sad though that may sound. > > > > I've had my fill of Maven and am anxious to move away from it. > > > > Creating a good build is a difficult challenge for most developers. I > > think the majority of devs who take a crack at a build system are > > handicapped by not knowing what they don't know. > > > > An experienced dev can leverage the Maven Ant tools or Ivy and create > > a better bulid than Maven and that's the direction I intend to go in > > the future. > > > > > >> Christian. > >> > >> On 12-Feb-08, at 13:33 , Jesse Kuhnert wrote: > >> > >>> I know what will make it stop though. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry / OGNL / Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
