This very issue is at the core of current design decisions for both Maven 2.1 and updates along the 2.0.x branch. They're pretty close to finding a decent way to stabilize plugin sets. I suspect by next release of 2.0.x there will be a "default set" of plugins for that version of maven that you can override, but unless you do, you'll get that set of working plugins.

And for the record, they are decent people trying very hard to solve a variety of problems with a very diverse set of users with vastly different priorities. This is a community, and some respectful collegiality is not out of line here. They may seem retarded to you, but I've heard the same thing from jerks I've worked with who bitch and complain about how flakey Tapestry is and how they chose web-works instead because of it. This would all go a lot better if people stopped bitching and consulted with each other and/or contributed code (and yes, I've contributed patches, not to this project, but to continuum, wotonomy, openbsd, and others). Your stress is totally valid, and I agree that plugin sets should be stable. On the other hand, however, if you lock down your plugins as per all the best practices discussed on the Maven users list, you would also obviate this problem until they have it resolved in the default tool behaviour.

Christian.


On 12-Feb-08, at 10:58 , Jesse Kuhnert wrote:

Just a warning that something funky seems to have happened lately as
we've lost the majority of documentation for anything not on the main
Tapestry 4.1 site.  (ie core / contrib / annotations / etc)

You can see this if you click on "Tapestry Core / Contrib" from the
left hand menu on the 4.1 site at
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/.

I'm not sure what to do about this right now but it seems like it's
probably concerning enough that I may be forced to take drastic action
to get it fixed.

F-ing asshole maven developers. ....I swear they seem so f-ing
retarded sometimes.

--
Jesse Kuhnert
Tapestry / OGNL / Dojo team member/developer

Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com

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