Hi Paul, Grakn seems different from your case, at least based on what I've understood of your product. Grakn actually has the Graql language which compiles down to the Gremlin. It is an interesting level of integration and promotes the idea of the Gremlin Virtual Machine in a very public way. As I understand your product, it seems like you've built an application that uses TinkerPop, but doesn't expand it with additional libraries/tooling that would qualify it as a "Provider". I'm pretty sure that all "Providers" thus far would fit that definition though the visualization providers might be a bit on the edge there of that definition (are they really "Powered By" now that we're talking about it?). Not sure if that makes any sense as a distinction or if that's our definition for our distinction as this is "new" but it's what's on my mind as one right now.
You mentioned your web site not being developer driven - still might be nice if it mentioned something about it using "Apache TinkerPop" as a core component of what it does. I don't think I saw that anywhere. If we were to use our Provider Policy as a guide for Powered By then I think having such a mention there would likely be a requirement for listing on the TinkerPop site. Not sure how others feel about that, but again just throwing ideas out there as we develop this. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Paul A. Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: > This sounds great. > > At the same time, though, I was looking at other providers and judging > from architecture diagrams (eg. https://grakn.ai/pages/documentation/the- > fundamentals/grakn-architecture.html) some look similar to ours. > > It may be the case that our web site is directed more towards business > types than developers, is available through direct sales only, etc, rather > than architectural differences? > > -Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marko Rodriguez [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Requirements for listing as a vendor > > I say we add a “Powered By” section to the website and list “leveraging > systems” as I wouldn’t call this a “TinkerPop Provider” like I would a more > “low level” graph database system…. > > If we open up “Powered By” it would allow us to show people the types of > products, projects, nick nacks and doo dads that are out there leveraging > TinkerPizzzop. > > Marko. > > > > On Mar 16, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Paul A. Jackson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I agree that the last bullet is not met. We bundle the Tinkerpop stack, > so the idea of version compatibility doesn't make sense. Instead, we offer > a platform that builds an ecosystem around the graph (ETL, fuzzy matching, > rich analysis client, etc). One feature is graph query. The users can > supply their own Gremlin queries, or they can use our graphical query > builder, which generates Gremlin. > > > > Anywho, what do you think? I concur we do not fit in the provider > bucket. But we have been around for 5 years. The offering is pretty mature > at this point. > > > > -Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Dale [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Requirements for listing as a vendor > > > > You should start here: http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html > > > > It's not obvious to me that the last 3 bullets are met. > > > > Robert Dale > > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Paul A. Jackson > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> What are the requirements for being lists as a Gremlin provider? We > >> (Pitney Bowes) have an integrated product offering called Spectrum > >> Data Hub (you'll also see it listed as part of the Spectrum MDM > >> solution). The product is its own application server and we embed > >> Gremlin on top of embedded Neo4j using our own "blueprints" adapter. > >> So, access to the graph is from our own apps, rather that via a Gremlin > console or server. > >> > >> I don't know if this makes us a special case or not. Can you let us > >> know if we qualify and/or if there's anything we would need to do so? > >> > >> Here's a link to the product literature: > >> http://www.pitneybowes.com/us/ > >> customer-information-management/data-integration- > >> management/spectrum-data-hub-module.html > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -Paul > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > ________________________________ > >
