On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:06 PM, jean-frederic clere wrote:

> On 12/19/2011 07:47 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>> Are you reading the thread?  I mentioned dec 17 that geronimo has
>> been maintaining a script for 2+ years that pulls tomcat source out
>> of tomcat svn and puts it in an appropriately structured maven
>> mutli-project build and we've been re-releasing quite a few tomcat
>> versions using this technique.  Not sure how this is "talk".  I've
>> experienced enough hostility over the years from the tomcat community
>> (not necessarily any currently active members) that I'm reluctant to
>> spend more time on this.
> 
> So starting with what is in the geronimo repo, how much work would it to have 
> a "mavenized" Tomcat?

I did this work and suggested tomcat look at it several years ago, and  don't 
remember all the details, some other people have been maintaining it recently.  
IIRC the maven projects generate pretty much the same jars as the ant build, 
possibly plus one more to get around the circular dependencies among the jars.  
So to generate a maven multimodule project to build the jars, 20 min to 
configure the script that builds the project, then you have a mavenized tomcat 
project checked in that builds pretty much the same jars as the ant build.  I 
don't really know what else the ant build generates.

> 
>> 
>> As I have said before in previous iterations of this topic, IMO many
>> of the advantages of maven are not for direct development of the
>> project itself (although they certainly exist) but in encouraging
>> interactions with other projects and communities.  You won't be able
>> to detect these without actually using maven.
> 
> We already publish artifacs, do you need more of them?

I think the benefit might be more on the order of encouraging people who ask 
"where did this jar come from-- I wanna fix something".  For people familiar 
with maven, there is IMO a much higher barrier to contributing to  tomcat than 
a well-structured maven project. (BTW I must add that I'm delighted that the 
tomcat community seems much more receptive to outside input than it did several 
years ago -- community unfriendliness seems to be totally missing now :-) ).

thanks
david jencks

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jean-Frederic
> 
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