Hi Romain, Ivan,

I agree with Romain and raised the suggestion of improving doc a month or two 
ago. At the time I offered a few hours to help -- am probably busy for another 
month now but do see documentation as an important factor.

My feeling would be that content is more important than tools -- I would see a 
librarian exercise to collect relevant docs and make them accessible from the 
new site, as the most relevant. This I believe would give the most easy and 
worthwhile improvement. 

My suggestion to move forward:
- collate docs from "old" openejb.apache.org site;  get these reviewed and edit 
to remove outdated material.
        - reviewing/ marking of what's outdated & what can be corrected to be 
delegated to appropriate people.
- make all docs accessible from Documentation areas on new tomee.apache.org 
site;
- collect prioritized suggestions as to what documentation gaps remain.
- (probably also)  for those who found the old site by accident, add links from 
old site to new Documentation areas on tomee.apache.org site.

This should make it possible to cheaply & easily gather all useful material 
from existing docs, consolidate the docs, and produce a shortlist of doc to 
fill in.

However I did look at Gitbook (www.gitbook.com) and it looks quite interesting. 
How is the website/ documentation maintained at the moment? Would a tool like 
Gitbook enable better shared authoring or make content writing easier (eg rich 
text editor, not raw HTML)? These are interesting questions. It might also be 
possible to use gitbook to share writing, then upload resulting HTML to an 
existing website repo if that's how website is maintained at the moment. See 
https://docs.duckduckhack.com/ for an example of Gitbook-produced docs.

I would suggest that TomEE as a project is technically nice, but documentation 
may be holding it back. People on the mailing list are great & very helpful and 
willing to answer questions, but I would believe that providing this material 
as findable written documentation on the current (new) website is important, as 
documentation is one of the #1 things people consider when considering a 
platform. 


Regards,
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, 10 March 2017 1:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: TomEE Documentation Suggestion

Hi Ivan,

we just revamped the website with a new structure, I know it is not perfect but 
a step to something better. Tooling is also way easier now to get started with. 
So question is: what would bring gitbook which would make it better we don't 
have already? If github we can ask infra to proxy our site repo on ASF github 
org.


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2017-03-10 1:14 GMT+01:00 Ivan Junckes Filho <[email protected]>:

> Hello TomEE developers,
>
> Today TomEE documentation is spread across multiple places, some are 
> not up to date anymore and some are just really hard to find on the 
> website. It is easier to find something on google than on 
> http://tomee.apache.org.
>
> I would like to suggest that TomEE uses www.gitbook.com, and we 
> migrate there the relevant documentation. Updating a website with doc 
> is ok, but I think it will make the job way easier and will open the 
> gates for contributors.

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