2017-03-10 3:16 GMT+01:00 Thomas Whitmore <[email protected]>:

> Hi Romain, Ivan,
>
> I agree with Romain and raised the suggestion of improving doc a month or
> two ago. At the time I offered a few hours to help -- am probably busy for
> another month now but do see documentation as an important factor.
>
> My feeling would be that content is more important than tools -- I would
> see a librarian exercise to collect relevant docs and make them accessible
> from the new site, as the most relevant. This I believe would give the most
> easy and worthwhile improvement.
>
> My suggestion to move forward:
> - collate docs from "old" openejb.apache.org site;  get these reviewed
> and edit to remove outdated material.
>         - reviewing/ marking of what's outdated & what can be corrected to
> be delegated to appropriate people.
> - make all docs accessible from Documentation areas on new
> tomee.apache.org site;
> - collect prioritized suggestions as to what documentation gaps remain.
> - (probably also)  for those who found the old site by accident, add links
> from old site to new Documentation areas on tomee.apache.org site.
>
> This should make it possible to cheaply & easily gather all useful
> material from existing docs, consolidate the docs, and produce a shortlist
> of doc to fill in.
>
> However I did look at Gitbook (www.gitbook.com) and it looks quite
> interesting. How is the website/ documentation maintained at the moment?
> Would a tool like Gitbook enable better shared authoring or make content
> writing easier (eg rich text editor, not raw HTML)? These are interesting
> questions. It might also be possible to use gitbook to share writing, then
> upload resulting HTML to an existing website repo if that's how website is
> maintained at the moment. See https://docs.duckduckhack.com/ for an
> example of Gitbook-produced docs.
>
>
we use a jbake site (
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/site/trunk/generators/site-tomee-ng/src/main/jbake/
- development with tomee itself ;))  the we just sync with site content
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/site/trunk/content/ and push through
ASF mecanism ("CMS") which is basically a svn deployed on a click. Nice
thing of that tooling is the autostaging mode so you have a site preview
before the prod one.

So concretely we are in managed and public so already shareable. If github
is better we can sync with github like tomee itself, that's a detail. And
we are adoc so github would just bring another structure but if you check
we already have one. The search is interesting and I guess we'll need to
add a kind of client search at build time or just use google.




> I would suggest that TomEE as a project is technically nice, but
> documentation may be holding it back. People on the mailing list are great
> & very helpful and willing to answer questions, but I would believe that
> providing this material as findable written documentation on the current
> (new) website is important, as documentation is one of the #1 things people
> consider when considering a platform.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, 10 March 2017 1:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TomEE Documentation Suggestion
>
> Hi Ivan,
>
> we just revamped the website with a new structure, I know it is not
> perfect but a step to something better. Tooling is also way easier now to
> get started with. So question is: what would bring gitbook which would make
> it better we don't have already? If github we can ask infra to proxy our
> site repo on ASF github org.
>
>
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> 2017-03-10 1:14 GMT+01:00 Ivan Junckes Filho <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hello TomEE developers,
> >
> > Today TomEE documentation is spread across multiple places, some are
> > not up to date anymore and some are just really hard to find on the
> > website. It is easier to find something on google than on
> http://tomee.apache.org.
> >
> > I would like to suggest that TomEE uses www.gitbook.com, and we
> > migrate there the relevant documentation. Updating a website with doc
> > is ok, but I think it will make the job way easier and will open the
> > gates for contributors.
>
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