i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal must be to
get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
we can later easily make openjpa the default again.

how should we proceed here?
i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we just need
some decisions.


Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
exabr...@gmail.com>:

> If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
> Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
> just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
> current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
> of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
> many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
> other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
> faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
> (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> <jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Great news ;-)
> > >
> > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > > >
> > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > > >
> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > > >
> > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > > <https://opensource.org/licenses/LGPL-2.1>.
> > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> > > > > éclipselink
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> > > > > > > > even
> > > > > support
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan | exabr...@gmail.com
> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
> half full.
> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to
> be.
>

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