Hi Enis, I never saw an answer to this one?
Thanks, Gunnar -----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate? Hi Enis, I think that the issue is related to the pom.xml file and the project page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html How are these two normally coordinated? Thanks, Gunnar On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Enis Söztutar <[email protected]> wrote: > Maven based projects I am involved with usually keep the "source of truth" > list of committers in pom.xml, and have the committers page auto-generated > from that list like [1]. > > I think tracking the list of contributors is optional. There is no formal > definition (as opposed to committership). We (in HBase) are using the jira > field for example for this so that people who works on a jira ticket can > assign the ticket to themselves. Privileges to create a wiki page is > similar. > > [1] https://hbase.apache.org/team-list.html > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the > > contributor information. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I will join the love fest also. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate? > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > Me too > > > > > > Roberta > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate? > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list. > > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate? > > > > > > I believe that would be a smart idea. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the > > > > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions). > > > > > > > > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that > > > > we > > > > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement? > > > > > > > > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml > > > > file > > > > with a link to a web page: > > > > > > > > <developers> > > > > <developer> > > > > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id> > > > > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name> > > > > <email>[email protected]<email> > > > > <url> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > </url> > > > > </developer> > > > > </developers> > > > > > > > > <contributors> > > > > <contributor> > > > > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name> > > > > <email>[email protected]</email> > > > > <url> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > </url> > > > > </contributor> > > > > </contributors> > > > > > > > > > > > > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of > > > > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers > > > > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Hans > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining. > > > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > > > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or > > > > speaking > > > > > at > > > > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where > talks > > > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a > > > > > > contribution. > > > > > > > > > > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an > > > > > > iCLA > > > > > submitted > > > > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted > anything, > > > > having > > > > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator > of > > > > > showing > > > > > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > > > > What more does the project need? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pierre > > > > > > > > > > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah < > > > > > > [email protected]> het volgende geschreven: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA > > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > b1) submitted a patch > > > > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA > > > > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management > > > > > (anything > > > > > > > else?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a > > contributor. > > > > > There > > > > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second list ( > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu > > > > > > > > tors > > > > ) > > > > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile > (show > > > > > > > commitment) > > > > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the > > > > > > > > secretary > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > to > > > > > create > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > update wiki pages). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer > > > > > > > > (get > > > > > commit > > > > > > > > privileges). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper < > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have > > > > > > > > > filed > > > > an > > > > > > ICLA > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be listed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > <javascript:;>] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? > > > > > > > > > Those > > > > are > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the > > > > > > > > > committers > > > > on > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit > > > > > > > > > decision, > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > sure it's explicit here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper < > > > > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not > touch > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > team > > > > > > > > > > entries > > > > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying > on > > > > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer > > > > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > maintain > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project > > > > > > > > > > page, > > > > then > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > be good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah < > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is > > > accurate. > > > > > > > Roberta > > > > > > > > > > > updated it recently. > > > > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we > > > > > > > > > > > have, > > > > > > though > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA, > > > > > > github > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > should > > > > > > be, > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who > a > > > > > > > contributor > > > > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper < > > > > > > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you > > > > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > you're > > > > > > > > right.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't > > > > > > > > > > you're > > > > > > right.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > > -- Thanks, Gunnar *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
