Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the three
copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we *have
*to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file with
a link to a web page:
<developers>
<developer>
<id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
<name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
<email>[email protected]<email>
<url>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
</url>
</developer>
</developers>
<contributors>
<contributor>
<name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
<email>[email protected]</email>
<url>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
</url>
</contributor>
</contributors>
The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of the
second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers and
contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
Thanks,
Hans
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Suresh,
> >
> > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or speaking
> at
> > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks will
> be
> > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > contribution.
> >
> > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> submitted
> > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything, having
> > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> showing
> > commitment.
> >
> > What more does the project need?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > [email protected]> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > >
> > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > AND
> > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> (anything
> > > else?)
> > >
> > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> There
> > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The second list (
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > commitment)
> > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of
> > the
> > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to
> create
> > > and
> > > > update wiki pages).
> > > >
> > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get
> commit
> > > > privileges).
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > [email protected]
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an
> > ICLA
> > > > to
> > > > > be listed.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:[email protected]
> > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are
> > two
> > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on
> > our
> > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just
> > making
> > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the
> team
> > > > > > entries
> > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain
> > > this
> > > > > > information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then
> > we
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > be good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > Roberta
> > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have,
> > though
> > > I
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA,
> > github
> > > &
> > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should
> > be,
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > contributor
> > > > > is.
> > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > > > right.*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > right.*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
>
