Hi,

I have at least found a Mac tester. Jogi agreed to help.

Best regards
Peter


Joerg Budischewski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> @liyuan: I would try 3 ways to proceed with macos-x.
> 
> * put a mail on the porting list to find a volunteer to work on the mac
> port of this cws
> * put a mail on the porting list, maybe there is someone who let you
> access a mac machine with an ooo build env and do the port yourself.
> * If you can't find anyone to do the port, I prefer not to let other
> platforms suffer because of a single one, then you should rearrange the
> makefiles in such a way, that macosx is built with python 2.3 while the
> rest is built with 2.5.
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Joerg
> 
> Peter Junge wrote:
>> Hi Laurent,
>>
>> Laurent Godard wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for this detailed status
>>>
>>>
>>>> This requirement i not fulfilled from my point of view. As far as I
>>>> understand the discussion, MAC OS X build fails.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right
>>> This Mac issue has blocked the process
>>> as the discussion went on delivering python or not within OOo on MacOs
>>> and was stalled for us (i do not read every mac irc discussion logs)
>>>
>>> things are evolving thanks to your IRC intervention
>>
>>
>> That was my idea. I am still not sure if the MAC version still blocks
>> the CWS. Do we have to wait for Joergs fix?
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76281
>>
>>
>>>>> * Issues submitted by developers must provide a test case
>>>>> to ensure appropriate verification.
>>>>
>>>> There's no 'how-to test' provided.
>>>>
>>>
>>> mail merge tests could be used as written in python
>>
>>
>> That's OK.
>>
>>> the developper knows what he modified and should be able to identify
>>> functional parts that has to be covered
>>
>>
>> @liyuan: I guess this is for you. Or am I wrong?
>>
>>
>>>>> * All issues must have the status 'Resolved/Fixed'
>>>>
>>>> Not the case.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes
>>
>>
>> Only one issue. Only of formal character.
>>
>>
>>>>> * All issues must be assigned to a QA members (except those only
>>>>> developers can verify)
>>>>
>>>> Not the case.
>>>>
>>>
>>> who has to be assigned there in IZ ? I may call for volunteers
>>
>>
>> I will be the right owner (when checklist requirements are met). Because
>> testing effort has to split I think I will have to create some child
>> issues for specific tasks.
>>
>>
>>>>> as i understand the situation, we lack a QA representative dealing
>>>>> with
>>>>> the various plateform building and check
>>>>
>>>> Please spare both of us this polemic irony.
>>>
>>> I'm really sorry, it was not my intention !!! Please forgive me
>>
>>
>> :-). No problem anymore. I have lots of understanding -especially for
>> single contributers- that they are not always happy with the OOo
>> progress all of the time. Same with me.
>> I hope I was not too harsh too. Your mail was one of the first things
>> that hit me in the morning after being late in the office due to Beijing
>> traffic jam.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> with you making some 'need to clarify' statements. And now you're
>>>> blaming me for the project getting stalled?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Reall sorry Peter, this was not my intention
>>> I'm the first to blame not following this point :(
>>>
>>> For me the problem, after the macos one, was that no builder was
>>> available for generating testing binaries on many plateform
>>> Linux, Windows, Solaris and mac (being optional here, as not finished
>>> yet). I thought proposing doing a fisrt step job for windows and linux
>>> plateform
>>
>>
>> Ah, now I see MAC OS is an option. I always though it's one of the
>> special scopes for this CWS. That makes my above remark concerning the
>> IRC chat obsolete. I just leave there, because it's still interesting
>> for ongoing discussion. OK, we can proceed with the CWS and file another
>> issue against MAC OS porting project. BTW, are you a member of the MAC
>> port? If not, that may have been my major misconception.
>>
>> The CWS process only requires testing on Windows and one other platform
>> out of Linux, Solaris Sparc or Solaris x86. But, we might have a special
>> case here, because of the involvement of Python being a third party
>> product. Maybe Joerg or some other experienced developer reading this
>> (hope they hadn't give up due to length :-)) can give some insight here.
>>
>>
>>>> Some information about the role of the QA representative:
>>>> - QA Rep. is not in charge to build the source
>>>>  (This would be even against the idea of the CWS process)
>>>
>>> This is where i was wrong and I'm really sorry
>>> ho is in charge of building on many plateforms ?
>>
>>
>> Here in Beijing we can do Windows and Linux, which (see above) might be
>> enough. I know only Sun in Hamburg that could build Solaris if needed. I
>> can ask somebody there. I've been working for more than five years with
>> them.
>>
>>
>>>> - QA Rep. organizes the QA effort of a CWS
>>>> - QA Rep. doesn't organize the whole CWS process
>>>> - QA Rep. is not necessarily in charge of doing all the testing
>>>>
>>>
>>> So thanks for pointing the QA missing points
>>
>>
>> No problem, my job.
>>
>>
>>> Do you think once ready for QA we should post on QA list for calling
>>> volunteers ?
>>
>>
>> I first wait for replies on this mail. I can take care about this later.
>>
>>
>>>> For the last item, this is even not possible for me. Because I have no
>>>> MAC available. I will ask Jogi from Sun in Hamburg to do this part.
>>>> (BCCed him.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok ! We may find also other volunteers on mac platform
>>> what about solaris ?
>>
>>
>> As stated above, depends on Windows + Linux testing sufficient to get
>> the job done.
>>
>>
>>> Once again peter, please forgive me for my misunderstandable words
>>> I really hope things are clear now
>>
>>
>> Yes. Do you join OOoCon in Barcelona? I hope my company sends me. Maybe
>> we could meet there.
>>
>>
>>> @liyuan : please look at comment in the issue about deprecation. only a
>>> suggestion
>>
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>>
>>> once all is ok (tinderbox do not show any build error on this cws ?),
>>> peter let us know what action you need at QA level (find ressources aso
>>> ...) - maybe on QA list ?
>>
>>
>> We'll see next weeks. Hopefully there'll be some more replies then.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Peter
>>
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