hmmm....
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
Hi *,
On Nov 24, 2007 6:07 PM, :murb: [maarten brouwers] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, the resolution was kind of what can we do now to improve the
situation. A one click download should be possible. I like the model of
Firefox for this. Clear download button with an automatically generated
default for OS and language, and below it, in smaller print "Alternative
versions and means to get OpenOffice.org" (or something along these lines).
So how does this work with OOo?
OOo has versions with or without JRE for Windows, (and of course
english and other
languages, but more on that later on)
OOo has versions in RPM and DEB format for Linux (and some with JRE,
some without)
OOo has versions for MacIntel, MacPPC, (all without JRE)
OOo has versions for other systems as well.
So how would you guess a default for OOo?
Default to english and still start the download? Bad, bad, bad for
non-english users...
Default to version with JRE? Bad, bad, bad when the nl-community is
not QA'ing the version
of OOo that has JRE included, doesn't build versions with JRE at all
(AFAIK only Sun does
build versions with JRE)
For Mac, what version would you default to? PPC or Intel? Probably
Intel. But since QA is
limited for Mac and not all languages go through the official
QA-Process, how would you
handle this?
Native-language versions in general: How would you deal with different
versions being
QA'd / approved at different points in time?
Costs: somebody needs to do the javascript needed for this. If we focus
on only OS, this is very easy.
No, it is not. We have multiple versions per OS, and even more when
you get to the
languages.
And when you restrict yourself to english, how does that fit with the
goal to rise awareness
for the nl-communities, giving the User support in her own language?
I /still/ don't see a one-click solution, and honestly I still don't
see what is wrong when
the user has to do two clicks. Is the user really that dumb so that
she doesn't know what
operating system she runs?
well...I'm kind of taking issue with your choice of gender here,
Christian, but this aside...I see your points. OOo is NOT so simple. We
are too accommodating it would seem. I don't work with "the users", so I
don't know how much of an issue we're talking about. I keep getting the
feeling from this list that user's WANT this, but what ARE the issues
with the choices? Is our wording bad, etc. Louis, however, seems to feel
strongly about this.
I suppose given what you're saying, the best we could do, and yes this
is not good either, would be to present some sort of "alert" window
telling them what will happen--i.e. English with JRE, for example. But,
then, if we do this, we may as well just NOT do a single click.
In any case, I'm assuming they could bail in the download if they didn't
want this.
The contribution page just after the download click is confusing imho
since it requires yet another button to click... I would vote thus
either for removing this page entirely, or ... while you are waiting for
the download to commence, please consider contributing to OpenOffice.org...
Nah, just start the download automatically after 3 or so seconds
(that's what the
german project does, and sourceforge, and....)
I fear that all of those "downloading is too complicated" boils down
to this very additional
click on the contributing page....
you may be right :}
ciao
Christian
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