Hi,

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 21:48 +1300, Ivan M wrote:
> > Requires JavaScript...a CSS only solution (mouseover) would be better.
> 
> Any examples of code that could be used? If we can avoid JS, that will be 
> great.

Just working on it. Almost there.

> > Try wine and ies4linux - if under Linux; or MultipleIEs if in
> > Windows. ;-)
> 
> My university has IE6 on some machines, I'll give it a shot when I'm
> there on Tuesday, unless someone else has IE6? Or I could just throw
> in the hacks :)

I can do a bit of IE6 testing. Didn't, yet, either.
BTW: the footer solution won't work in IE6, 'cause it doesn't support
min-height. One could compromise via an expression property, but i don't
know if that really works, since the min-height solution seems somewhat
illogical to me, either.

> Basically, the problem is which tab will be highlighted on the page
> that is linked in from the "I want to download OpenOffice.org" action
> statement. Since there is no 'download' tab, we can't highlight that
> (the current website has a download navbar item, but the new proposed
> design doesn't).

Ahh, yepp, now i get it...i guess the "closest related" solution is the
way to go.

> If you can make better tabs, I'd welcome that. I sent an email a while
> ago asking if someone might be able to make better tabs, since these
> were done very quickly. The navbar is 25px high, and it uses the CSS
> rollover technique (all 3 states - active, mouseover and selected in
> one PNG image) and there are 2 of these images - one for the left part
> of the tab and one for the right part.

Don't get me wrong, i love your tabs. It's the best part of the
page. ;-) Somewhat seriously, actually. The implementation just has a
little problem, but i'll fix that in my playground version as well.

> More importantly IMO is getting it validated. I wrote:
> 
> > Currently, the design does not validate simply because h1 and
> > paragraph tags cannot be enclosed in a link.
> (the action statement is h1, while the sub-text is a paragraph)

Simply define separate links with the same targets.

> > I did this to make the
> > link area encapsulate the whole list item. I don't know how this can
> > be fixed, other than to split everything up and use multiple <a> tags
> > within both the h1 tag and the subsequent paragraph tag (or make both
> > h1 and p tags a <span> element, but that's hardly semantic). Any
> > suggestions?

I'm afraid you can't have it any simpler. <a> tags should always be
relatively atomic anyways (meaning not including too much structure
within them).

Although - if you ask me, linking the <p> enclosed tagline isn't
necessary at all.

> I tried making the keywords in each action statement more prominent by
> making them a darker color, but this looked weird - a kind of
> unsettling feeling that there was something wrong with the page -
> someone might like to try this with different color combinations.

Another thought i had...should we crunch the header a bit? In height i
mean? If we'd place the logo in the white area underneath the wave on
the left and the tagline above it to it's right, the header could be
about half the height of what it is now. I think this will become
relevant at least on subsequent pages.

André.

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