I'm not subscribed to the marketing list at the moment (too much 'noise' when I was before) hence my reply to the website-dev list only.

on 06/09/2009 16:55 Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,

I'm quoting your message in full, as I'm not sure if it reached the d...@marketing mailing list. If you are not subscribed with m...@johnea.net, please do so, so you receive feedback from other marketing team members as well. I've as well included d...@website for the website project.

Thank you very much for your valueable feedback, your nice words and your interest in OpenOffice.org.

Your idea indeed sounds good to me. Although I'm no native English speaker, I think your approach is a very good one. I'd love to get feedback from others in the project - if no one objects, I can happily modify the wording per your suggestion. I know there have been quite a lot discussions on the redesign of the main page some time ago, that's why I'd love to hear feedback from the website and marketing team before doing any changes.
If I remember correctly, this was discussed, at length, in a topic including the words "thirsty horses", if others want to read the original rationale for the existing wording in the mailing list archives: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html

It was also brought up not too long ago, and everyone was referred back to those messages then too.

I'd be interested in John's background/qualifications in this area? If he is a website design / marketing 'guru', then of course that would lend considerable weight to his comments.

I must admit, thought along the same lines when I saw the original proposal, but Graham Lauder's arguments won me over. I thought I'd speak up now to lend some support to the existing wording.

The point IIRC is not that the current wording is best for competent, experienced computer users. It is designed to appeal to those not familiar with computers, or website browsing; to make them feel comfortable, and more likely to click one of the action statements.

m...@johnea.net wrote:
I've been using linux and openoffice as my primary desktop
environment and productivity suite for the last 7 years.
...I would hazard a guess that puts John in the "experienced" user bracket, and I'd also suppose that the vast majority of these users (myself included) would prefer a more terse presentation of the options when looking at the site /*from our own perspective*/ as users.

The crux of the matter seems to me: how can we appeal to the inexperienced computer user, without going so far as to alienate or confuse the experienced user? IMHO the current homepage does this.

That's not to say that I couldn't be swayed, if contrary supporting evidence is offered (not just "everyone else does it like this").

Regards,
James
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