> On Nov 23, 2015, at 2:34 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 23 November 2015 at 20:54, Craig L Russell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 9:38 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 22 November 2015 at 16:14, Craig L Russell <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 7:22 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 November 2015 at 03:50, Craig L Russell <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Craig L Russell
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I noticed during the recent work that the email address in iclas.txt 
>>>>>>>> is out of date with reality. At least a couple of addresses are in the 
>>>>>>>> sun.com domain, clearly not current.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How could I send email to the address in iclas.txt and also to all 
>>>>>>>> addresses in mail aliases? Something like:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to: [email protected] cc: 
>>>>>>>> [email protected],[email protected],[email protected] reflecting 
>>>>>>>> both the iclas.txt address plus all of the mail aliases.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First, this is not possible for entries with 'notinavail’,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> not really needed, since notinavail entries can simply be removed after 
>>>>>> sending email once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure that's true - see recent e-mail from Sam
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/board/201511.mbox/%3ccafg6u8e+v_j_r8ccmfs5vqahssuf_vngrvqxx5qqsh0sowv...@mail.gmail.com%3e
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't we need to keep a record of all ICLAs submitted?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. I’m no longer thinking that we should remove the iclas.txt entry, but 
>>>> need to modify the public name to indicate that the icla went missing.
>>> 
>>> "modify the public name"
>>> 
>>> Not sure that is a good idea.
>>> Surely the place to record missing ICLA files is the 5th field which
>>> has a suffix (after the semi-colon) for recording the ICLA file name.
>> 
>> The problem is that a PMC just looks at 
>> http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html and sees that an ICLA is on 
>> file. But these 33 entries have no ICLA. So if the PMC request an account, 
>> root would have to research whether there is actually an icla. I’m trying to 
>> avoid that.
>> 
>> My proposal: Instead of e.g. Charles McLouth showing up, it would be Charles 
>> McLouth (no ICLA) and surely there is no need for research by root.
>> 
>> The alternative to avoid the above is to remove the iclas.txt entry, but 
>> that has its own problems.
> 
> Or fix the people.a.o app to take note of another indicator in the file.

Ok. The bad entries with notinavail come in three flavors:

no icla stub
icla stub but no document in documents/iclas/stub
comment  (+=r9120) or  (+=r9154) or (page 3 missing)

If the acreq tool can be updated to deny these cases, then there is nothing 
more needed to flag these entries.

Craig

> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> 
>>>> There are only 33 cases of missing iclas for notinavail, so the tool will 
>>>> simply be full of those folks that we cannot locate. What would be bad is 
>>>> for these folks to fail to respond to the request for a replacement, and 
>>>> for a PMC to then offer commit privileges.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> " the tool will simply be full ..."
>>> 
>>> Not sure I understand what tool is being referenced here.
>>> 
>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> but here
>>>>>>> are a few things to explore.  The way I would recommend you explore
>>>>>>> these values is to type "irb -r whimsy/asf" from the command line and
>>>>>>> then enter the expressions listed below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ll give these a shot and let you know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is how to find all email addresses:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ASF::Person.find('clr').all_mail
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is how to remove the 'to' address:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ASF::Person.find('clr').all_mail - ['[email protected]']
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is how to return the results as a comma separated string:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (ASF::Person.find('clr').all_mail - ['[email protected]']).join(',')
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>>>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>> 

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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