On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:13 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:06 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:52 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:12 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > Not sure what could have caused it. > >> > > >> > - MADlib looks correct > >> > >> The ✘ at the top means no podlingnamesearch was found (hover over it > >> to see the tooltip). > >> > >> Anirudh Kondaveeti's id is incorrect (the correct id is akondave) > >> > >> Orhan Kışlal's name doesn't match the name in LDAP (which is recorded > >> as Orhan Kislal, note the s). > >> > >> Not that it is a problem, but I note that MADlib's PPMC roster was > >> never set up. I mention that as (per below) it is a check that now > >> occurs to me should be added. > >> > >> > - Atlas isn't processing as an establish (not sure why) > >> > >> Email addresses aren't enclosed in <>s, and the lines aren't preceded > >> by an asterisk. Note that this parsed list was by the tlp establish > >> infra tool; but that need may soon go away with the changes in LDAP. > >> In any case, the failure to parse this list means that the > >> cross-checks that the board agenda tool does to see if ids are valid > >> and names match aren't performed. > >> > >> Not checked by the current board agenda tool, but I note that the > >> people listed as Atlas committers in LDAP are being proposed as PPMC > >> members in the resolution. > >> > >> The quotes around the chair's name may cause it to not match the email > >> addresses once they are fixed. > >> > >> > - Mynewt only picks up Justin's name, no one else's > >> > >> No asterisks, extra comma at the end of lines. Again, committers are > >> listed as proposed PMC members. > >> > > Committers being added to the PMC shouldn't be an issue. > > This piques my curiosity: why weren't they added to the PPMC prior to > graduation then? What is the purpose between distinguishing between > PPMC and committers during incubation? > > I've asked that question as well. Will wait on a response. I think distinguishing is the as why we do it on TLPs. We've marked the ideal of having everyone be on the PPMC, but some people feel it important to distinguish. > It somehow seems more likely that there was a communication problems > somewhere along the line and the people who drafted these proposals > don't have the same understanding as the board (and, for that matter, > existing infrastructure tools) as to what this list is intended to > mean. > I'm not sure what you mean. > > Once added to the PMC, these individuals will have access to PMC > private mailing list archives. > > In any case, much of what the board agenda tool reports is only > advisory. For example, the board may chose to approve the graduation > despite the lack of a podlingnamesearch. > I'm not comfortable without the PNS. And it looks like 2 of the graduates are missing it :/ > > >> Justin is found as he is listed as the chair. > >> > >> > John > >> > >> P.S. The roster tool has a button at the bottom of PPMC pages which > >> helps generate a correctly formatted establish resolution. At the > >> moment, it only presents the resolution, which can be copied/pasted. > >> It could have an option to post the resolution, either to the > >> incubator mailing list for a vote or to the board agenda itself. > > - Sam Ruby >