On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:13 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:06 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:52 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:12 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Not sure what could have caused it.
> >> >
> >> > - MADlib looks correct
> >>
> >> The ✘ at the top means no podlingnamesearch was found (hover over it
> >> to see the tooltip).
> >>
> >> Anirudh Kondaveeti's id is incorrect (the correct id is akondave)
> >>
> >> Orhan Kışlal's name doesn't match the name in LDAP (which is recorded
> >> as Orhan Kislal, note the s).
> >>
> >> Not that it is a problem, but I note that MADlib's PPMC roster was
> >> never set up.  I mention that as (per below) it is a check that now
> >> occurs to me should be added.
> >>
> >> > - Atlas isn't processing as an establish (not sure why)
> >>
> >> Email addresses aren't enclosed in <>s, and the lines aren't preceded
> >> by an asterisk.  Note that this parsed list was by the tlp establish
> >> infra tool; but that need may soon go away with the changes in LDAP.
> >> In any case, the failure to parse this list means that the
> >> cross-checks that the board agenda tool does to see if ids are valid
> >> and names match aren't performed.
> >>
> >> Not checked by the current board agenda tool, but I note that the
> >> people listed as Atlas committers in LDAP are being proposed as PPMC
> >> members in the resolution.
> >>
> >> The quotes around the chair's name may cause it to not match the email
> >> addresses once they are fixed.
> >>
> >> > - Mynewt only picks up Justin's name, no one else's
> >>
> >> No asterisks, extra comma at the end of lines.  Again, committers are
> >> listed as proposed PMC members.
> >>
> > Committers being added to the PMC shouldn't be an issue.
>
> This piques my curiosity: why weren't they added to the PPMC prior to
> graduation then?  What is the purpose between distinguishing between
> PPMC and committers during incubation?
>
>
I've asked that question as well.  Will wait on a response.

I think distinguishing is the as why we do it on TLPs.  We've marked the
ideal of having everyone be on the PPMC, but some people feel it important
to distinguish.


> It somehow seems more likely that there was a communication problems
> somewhere along the line and the people who drafted these proposals
> don't have the same understanding as the board (and, for that matter,
> existing infrastructure tools) as to what this list is intended to
> mean.
>

I'm not sure what you mean.


>
> Once added to the PMC, these individuals will have access to PMC
> private mailing list archives.
>
> In any case, much of what the board agenda tool reports is only
> advisory.  For example, the board may chose to approve the graduation
> despite the lack of a podlingnamesearch.
>

I'm not comfortable without the PNS.  And it looks like 2 of the graduates
are missing it :/


>
> >> Justin is found as he is listed as the chair.
> >>
> >> > John
> >>
> >> P.S.  The roster tool has a button at the bottom of PPMC pages which
> >> helps generate a correctly formatted establish resolution.  At the
> >> moment, it only presents the resolution, which can be copied/pasted.
> >> It could have an option to post the resolution, either to the
> >> incubator mailing list for a vote or to the board agenda itself.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>

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