In the case of new members without Apache id, perhaps we should allow "members" 
as the project name in ICLA workbench processing.

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: New ASF member account creation request
> Date: April 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 PM PDT
> To: sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Matt Sicker <mattsic...@apache.org>, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>, 
> "Apache root@" <r...@apache.org>, Secretary <secret...@apache.org>
> 
> I've looked at Mark's record 
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/markfradcliffe and it looks ok. I 
> removed him from whimsy project because I had used whimsy as the project when 
> requesting his account.
> 
> I could not figure out how to request an account without providing a project 
> for him to commit to. Perhaps this situation is infrequent enough that it 
> does not need to be programmed for, but it would still be nice... Maybe 
> "members" would be a good (if quirky) project to use in the specific case of 
> members without ids?
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:03 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 12 April 2018 at 17:24, Matt Sicker <mattsic...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There are ldap modifications that whimsy handles as well (add to the members
>>> group for example).
>>> 
>>> On 12 April 2018 at 11:23, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/12/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We (secretary) put a request in for Mark Radcliffe who was invited to
>>>>> join the ASF this year. I accidentally filed his member application before
>>>>> you had a chance to create his account. Can I get some assistance in 
>>>>> fixing
>>>>> this?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We'll get the account set up ASAP. I don't know that the order really
>>>> matters. If we need to do something special here, do let us know.
>> 
>> LDAP does not complain if a non-existent person is added to a group.
>> 
>> However the Whimsy public json jobs do complain if they detect a
>> non-existent person.
>> These checks are only done when the group is changed.
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker
>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
> 
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo

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